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Top Forums UNIX for Advanced & Expert Users Should I say "field 8" or "column 8" in this case? Post 302784377 by hanson44 on Friday 22nd of March 2013 05:07:33 AM
Old 03-22-2013
Should I say "field 8" or "column 8" in this case?

I saw some recent posts where I thought the terms "field" and "column" were being misused. I work with data a lot, and have my opinions. I'm wondering if those opinions are correct.

***** Rows seem clear - I don't think there is any controversy about what a row is, either for database or text file.

***** Flat file columns seem clear - For a flat file such as the following, I don't think there is any controversy about what a column is. Column in file shown is like "cut -c 1". Several columns may combine to make a field, so "cut -c 1-11" cuts the field in columns 1-11 (record ID here), such as 09011101001, 09011101002, etc.
Code:
09011101001270101192008BNB1102008000027060126720001305591
09011101002230101212008B5P1102008000053110126720001305591
090111010032501011120084XB1102008000085030126720001305591
09011101005250101232008GUW1202008000145050126720001305591
09011101006070101132008E3S1102008000157050126720001305591
09012101007060102062008GWB1102008000186030361080005352411
090111010081601011920082XW1102008000226050126720001305591

****** CSV and TSV "columns" seem misused to me - Here is similar data, in TSV format. I would call say "data in field 8" instead of "data in column 8". I think I'm supported by the cut command and it's use of "cut -f 8 -d," (--fields) for parsing this kind of data. To me, "column 8" means "cut -c 8". By the time we get out to "field 8", it doesn't line up vertically anymore, so I doesn't even look like a column. But it seems many, or perhaps most, say "data in column 8". But many of those can barely string together a sentence. Smilie So I thought I would ask the experts. Is it more correct to say "column 8" or "field 8" for what "cut -f 8 -d," retrieves in example below? Smilie
Code:
9,1,1,1,1001,27,1,01192008,01,19,2008,BNB,110,2008000027
9,1,1,1,1002,23,1,01212008,01,21,2008,B5P,110,2008000053
9,1,1,1,1003,25,1,01112008,01,11,2008,4XB,110,2008000085
9,1,1,1,1005,25,1,01232008,01,23,2008,GUW,120,2008000145
9,1,1,1,1006,7,1,01132008,01,13,2008,E3S,110,2008000157,2
9,1,2,1,1007,6,1,02062008,02,06,2008,GWB,110,2008000186,2
9,1,1,1,1008,16,1,01192008,01,19,2008,2XW,110,2008000226

 

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cut(1)								   User Commands							    cut(1)

NAME
cut - cut out selected fields of each line of a file SYNOPSIS
cut -b list [-n] [file]... cut -c list [file]... cut -f list [-d delim] [-s] [file]... DESCRIPTION
Use the cut utility to cut out columns from a table or fields from each line of a file; in data base parlance, it implements the projection of a relation. The fields as specified by list can be fixed length, that is, character positions as on a punched card (-c option) or the length can vary from line to line and be marked with a field delimiter character like TAB (-f option). cut can be used as a filter. Either the -b, -c, or -f option must be specified. Use grep(1) to make horizontal ``cuts'' (by context) through a file, or paste(1) to put files together column-wise (that is, horizontally). To reorder columns in a table, use cut and paste. OPTIONS
The following options are supported: list A comma-separated or blank-character-separated list of integer field numbers (in increasing order), with optional - to indi- cate ranges (for instance, 1,4,7; 1-3,8; -5,10 (short for 1-5,10); or 3- (short for third through last field)). -b list The list following -b specifies byte positions (for instance, -b1-72 would pass the first 72 bytes of each line). When -b and -n are used together, list is adjusted so that no multi-byte character is split. -c list The list following -c specifies character positions (for instance, -c1-72 would pass the first 72 characters of each line). -d delim The character following -d is the field delimiter (-f option only). Default is tab. Space or other characters with special meaning to the shell must be quoted. delim can be a multi-byte character. -f list The list following -f is a list of fields assumed to be separated in the file by a delimiter character (see -d ); for instance, -f1,7 copies the first and seventh field only. Lines with no field delimiters will be passed through intact (useful for table subheadings), unless -s is specified. -n Do not split characters. When -b list and -n are used together, list is adjusted so that no multi-byte character is split. -s Suppresses lines with no delimiter characters in case of -f option. Unless specified, lines with no delimiters will be passed through untouched. OPERANDS
The following operands are supported: file A path name of an input file. If no file operands are specified, or if a file operand is -, the standard input will be used. USAGE
See largefile(5) for the description of the behavior of cut when encountering files greater than or equal to 2 Gbyte (2^31 bytes). EXAMPLES
Example 1 Mapping user IDs A mapping of user IDs to names follows: example% cut -d: -f1,5 /etc/passwd Example 2 Setting current login name To set name to current login name: example$ name=`who am i | cut -f1 -d' '` ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES
See environ(5) for descriptions of the following environment variables that affect the execution of cut: LANG, LC_ALL, LC_CTYPE, LC_MES- SAGES, and NLSPATH. EXIT STATUS
The following exit values are returned: 0 All input files were output successfully. >0 An error occurred. ATTRIBUTES
See attributes(5) for descriptions of the following attributes: +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ | ATTRIBUTE TYPE | ATTRIBUTE VALUE | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Availability |SUNWcsu | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ |CSI |Enabled | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ |Interface Stability |Standard | +-----------------------------+-----------------------------+ SEE ALSO
grep(1), paste(1), attributes(5), environ(5), largefile(5), standards(5) DIAGNOSTICS
cut: -n may only be used with -b cut: -d may only be used with -f cut: -s may only be used with -f cut: cannot open <file> Either file cannot be read or does not exist. If multiple files are present, processing continues. cut: no delimiter specified Missing delim on -d option. cut: invalid delimiter cut: no list specified Missing list on -b, -c, or -f option. cut: invalid range specifier cut: too many ranges specified cut: range must be increasing cut: invalid character in range cut: internal error processing input cut: invalid multibyte character cut: unable to allocate enough memory SunOS 5.11 29 Apr 1999 cut(1)
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