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Top Forums UNIX for Advanced & Expert Users named pipe with persistent buffer Post 302102662 by Corona688 on Friday 12th of January 2007 02:29:51 AM
Old 01-12-2007
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Originally Posted by heck
So far my aimings and my concept are NOT nonsense. It is NOT a "Yes you need your computer powered up to run your program" like problem.
But they are. No matter how far down you push it, the data is still going to be waiting in memory sometime. You didn't just ask for "improved", you demand "guaranteed". Your requirements are simply impossible.
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It is just to be transaction save.
If you want transaction safety, use a database of some sort. Of course, even a database isn't magical -- it can't store data that hasn't been written yet.
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And i conclude, yes it is a little bit of an uncommom problem. But were simply a the point, where we cant say, "ahh if the Machine screws up sometime, everything is screwed up anyway."
Unfortunately, it's true. If the machine screws up, nothing can be guaranteed, no matter how rube goldbergian you make your data path.
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We have to be able to say. If the Machine screws up, we are prepared the best we can.
Right. That is what things like backups, failovers, RAID arrays, redundant power supplies, uninterruptible power supplies, generators, software sandboxing, extensive testing and detailed testing procedures are for. These will be much more useful than demanding magic software that can successfully save irreplaceable data to a hard drive that, perhaps, has no power.
 

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FIFO(4) 						     Linux Programmer's Manual							   FIFO(4)

NAME
fifo - first-in first-out special file, named pipe DESCRIPTION
A FIFO special file (a named pipe) is similar to a pipe, except that it is accessed as part of the file system. It can be opened by multi- ple processes for reading or writing. When processes are exchanging data via the FIFO, the kernel passes all data internally without writ- ing it to the file system. Thus, the FIFO special file has no contents on the file system, the file system entry merely serves as a refer- ence point so that processes can access the pipe using a name in the file system. The kernel maintains exactly one pipe object for each FIFO special file that is opened by at least one process. The FIFO must be opened on both ends (reading and writing) before data can be passed. Normally, opening the FIFO blocks until the other end is opened also. A process can open a FIFO in non-blocking mode. In this case, opening for read only will succeed even if noone has opened on the write side yet; opening for write only will fail with ENXIO (no such device or address) unless the other end has already been opened. Under Linux, opening a FIFO for read and write will succeed both in blocking and non-blocking mode. POSIX leaves this behaviour undefined. This can be used to open a FIFO for writing while there are no readers available. A process that uses both ends of the connection in order to communicate with itself should be very careful to avoid deadlocks. NOTES
When a process tries to write to a FIFO that is not opened for read on the other side, the process is sent a SIGPIPE signal. FIFO special files can be created by mkfifo(3), and are specially indicated in ls -l. SEE ALSO
mkfifo(3), mkfifo(1), pipe(2), socketpair(2), open(2), signal(2), sigaction(2) Linux Man Page 1999-06-20 FIFO(4)
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