What if we end up being the bad aliens?


 
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Old 01-29-2005
What if we end up being the bad aliens?

All biological cognitive minds which exist for a fleeting moment in a 20 billion year old universe make cognitive inferences. Most of these cognitive inferences are wrong and are a synthesis of an infinite series of mistaken inferences based on the inability of a biological cognitive mind to understand the complex organization of information in 20 billion years of natural law, cause-and-effect, and self-organization.

In other words, to say this more simply, and to keep this post short, the world we live in is a product of evolution of a primitive cognitive space; life, as we know it is an illusion; a world created out of an epic human quest for survival, knowledge and self-awareness, mostly based on mistaken inferences.

All life, viewed from the human cognitive mind, is an illusion that is only real to homo sapiens and those infected by this self-generated "reality", based on the serial history, conditioning and synthesis of cognitive inference in a vain attempt to understand 20 billion years of cause-and-effect.

Most of us, the author included, struggle to keep vBulletin tuned and forum users to frequent our virtual communities; and in context, have little hope to understand 20 billion years of science and natural law. Someday, humans may simply be the "maintainers" for machines who will have cognitive abilities in excited silicon that will far surpass cognitive abilities in homo sapiens. Who knows?

Unfortuately, these machines will more-than-likely be built and bootstrapped with the same wrong inferences that infect our biological cognitive spaces. This is simply the limitations of biological and carbon based life as we "know it". In closing, because science and technology have only emerged in the past few hundred years of a 20 billion year history, this is only about 0.000000001 of the history of the universe as we know it. There is a long way to go and much to learn. I would say Earthlings are doing OK, considering their relatively short emergence in the cosmos.

Yes, as the original poster [from the vB boards] stated, "we are the bad aliens"..... Smilie
# 2  
Old 01-30-2005
I can see it now though.

We will finally get everything right and then the next big bang or something like that will happen and then we get pushed back to square one again.
# 3  
Old 02-10-2005
The jury is still still out if the universe will keep expanding or reverse into "the big crunch". There is a factor called, "the critical factor" or "the critical mass" (I can't recall off hand), that scientists have calculated is the threshold; and that number is unknown (to us humans on Earth).

Either way, "we" will be a relative term in a billion years. Machines will far exceed the cognitive ability of carbon based life, and things will be very different than they are today Smilie Our Sun has a limited lifespan and "we" will have to migrate to a different solar system before the "big whatever" happens (unless some disaster occurs, like a big rock hitting earth, etc.!!)

Since the dynos were wiped out by the effects of a "big rock", seems likely another "big rock" will hit someday.
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Old 02-10-2005
But if the universe is going to end with say a big bang or whatever. Will the natural instinct of survival for humans be to search out to find if there is such an existents of a parallel universe?

If so will we make it there in time?
# 5  
Old 02-10-2005
Yes, if the universe does indeed end in "a big crunch" (as some theory suggests), there will be surely be "desire" to escape certain death - but that scenario is so long into the future that humans, as we know and understand them, will have long ceased to exist...

For example, if you examine the world via the eyes of information theory (entropy and the third law of thermodynamics) and the fact that the universe is becoming "more organized," and the accepted fact that in the not-do-distant future that machines will have much greater cognitive abilities that human brains -- the need for "biological bodies" may be less important, and one could venture to say; and then all the "accumulated knowledge" could be "pushed" (sent, mailed, shot, passed, etc.) into "passages" to other universes, if there are indeed more than one and a way to go between them.

There is so much transfomation of "life" that we can only speculate, out of total ignorance, what "life" will be like 10 billion years. "Life" could simply be energy traveling in the universe..... and the need and desire to "live" may not exist, as we know it today in our current biological, carbon based, housing for our minds.

In all honesty, I have no idea......
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Old 03-11-2005
in a sense ... we'd all be like ghosts ... cannot be seen ... haunting the place ...
# 7  
Old 03-12-2005
More like electronic remnants (not ghosts), if you ask me:

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3 entries found for remnant.
rem·nant    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (rmnnt)
n.

   1. Something left over; a remainder.
   2. A piece of fabric remaining after the rest has been used or sold.
   3. A surviving trace or vestige: a remnant of his past glory.
   4. A small surviving group of people. Often used in the plural.

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