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Operating Systems AIX AIX dump device not showing accurate size Post 303025987 by paqman on Friday 16th of November 2018 12:06:34 PM
Old 11-16-2018
Quote:
Originally Posted by bakunin
OK, this is a valid explanation. Still, i suggest you use smaller disks for your rootvg. In my experience it is best to put only filesystems really really belonging to the system (not the application, not the data, not anything else) into the rootvg. First, when you take a system backup you back up the rootvg, aka mksysb. Guess, how long that takes on a multi-terabyte rootvg and, bonus question, how big of a size the resulting mksysb-image will be. For reference, my largest database server (700G memory, ~80TB database) has a (2x, mirrored) 120GB rootvg - and this is only because the customers insisted on swap space that will never be used. Otherwise i would have gone with our 2x60GB-standard-rootvg.

Second, modern systems are usually virtual and the disks are too. There is a big difference in moving around system disks (controlled by VIOS) and non-system disks because these can be unmounted/varyoffed easily while the system is under load. Therefore it is a good idea to separate system- and non-system-disks into seaparate VGs.



First off: thank you for telling us that! I perhaps never would have had that idea at all and so i (and all the others reading this thread) learned something from here too. Absolutely commendable! A word of caution too: you shouldn't just overwrite parts of the system. AIX has a great packaging system and i suggest you use it to your advantage:

- check which package the file came from with
Code:
lslpp -w </path/to/file>

then replace this package with a newer version.

- if you are interested in which else files the package contains issue
Code:
lslpp -f <packagename>

to get a list of files/directories belonging to this package.

I hope this helps.

bakunin
Thanks! Yes, I agree this system should not have been installed on such large disks. There are a couple of 300GB disks in there that I think the rootvg should go on. I am new to this company and wasn't involved in installing the makesysb image. However, it is new and not in production yet, I may make the recommendation we move it to the other disks. Most of our systems do use virtual disk, however I think due to the particular function of this server they decided to install locally.

Thanks for the info about the packages, I will look into that! I have been a Unix/Linux SA for 15 years, but am very new to AIX, so I appreciate the advice.

------ Post updated at 10:06 AM ------

Just for some additional information, it looks like this problem existed on all the servers we had running AIX 7100-03-04-1441. The fileset for the dumpcheck script was bos.sysmgt.serv_aid 7.1.2.0.
 

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DUMPON(8)						    BSD System Manager's Manual 						 DUMPON(8)

NAME
dumpon -- specify a device for crash dumps SYNOPSIS
dumpon [-v] special_file dumpon [-v] off dumpon [-v] -l DESCRIPTION
The dumpon utility is used to specify a device where the kernel can save a crash dump in the case of a panic. Calls to dumpon normally occur from the system multi-user initialization file /etc/rc, controlled by the ``dumpdev'' variable in the boot time configuration file /etc/rc.conf. The default type of kernel crash dump is the mini crash dump. Mini crash dumps hold only memory pages in use by the kernel. Alternatively, full memory dumps can be enabled by setting the debug.minidump sysctl(8) variable to 0. For systems using full memory dumps, the size of the specified dump device must be at least the size of physical memory. Even though an additional 64 kB header is added to the dump, the BIOS for a platform typically holds back some memory, so it is not usually necessary to size the dump device larger than the actual amount of RAM available in the machine. Also, when using full memory dumps, the dumpon utility will refuse to enable a dump device which is smaller than the total amount of physical memory as reported by the hw.physmem sysctl(8) vari- able. The -l flag causes dumpon to print the current dump device or _PATH_DEVNULL ("/dev/null") if no device is configured. The -v flag causes dumpon to be verbose about its activity. IMPLEMENTATION NOTES
Since a panic(9) condition may occur in a situation where the kernel cannot trust its internal representation of the state of any given file system, one of the system swap devices, and not a device containing a file system, should be used as the dump device. The dumpon utility operates by opening special_file and making a DIOCSKERNELDUMP ioctl(2) request on it to save kernel crash dumps. If special_file is the text string: ``off'', dumpon performs a DIOCSKERNELDUMP ioctl(2) on /dev/null and thus instructs the kernel not to save crash dumps. Since dumpon cannot be used during kernel initialization, the dumpdev variable of loader(8) must be used to enable dumps for system panics which occur during kernel initialization. FILES
/dev/{ada,da}?s?b standard swap areas /etc/rc.conf boot-time system configuration SEE ALSO
fstab(5), rc.conf(5), config(8), init(8), loader(8), rc(8), savecore(8), swapon(8), panic(9) HISTORY
The dumpon utility appeared in FreeBSD 2.1. BUGS
Because the file system layer is already dead by the time a crash dump is taken, it is not possible to send crash dumps directly to a file. BSD
October 8, 2014 BSD
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