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Top Forums Programming sockets - can you send data while waiting on select() Post 302526639 by expl on Wednesday 1st of June 2011 06:11:45 AM
Old 06-01-2011
Sockets are also not available on EVERY system, does not mean you should not use them. The option is available on Windows, Linux and BSDs, haven't checked more.

Go check the POSIX specification for socket's options. The STANDARD said so.

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Originally Posted by Loic Domaigne

Your reasoning is excellent, but your basic assumptions are off. If you read carefully my posts, I just mentioned that it is possible to block on a socket, while sending data, since TCP is full-duplex. Nothing more, nothing less.

And even if people err (I personally do), I don't feel the need to treat them "maroons that have no idea about what they're talking about". We're all here to learn, and this can be achieved in a respectful way.

Just my 2c,
Loïc
I apologize for my rudeness.

As in abstract implementation goes, it is possible but its not very smart as it is easy to mess up, consider blocking thread unblocks (because it gets data to read) while other thread is sending and starts sending as well, you end up with borked output, or at least there will be a race condition possibility. Smart implementation should use just one thread per connection handler.

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PTHREAD_CANCEL(3P)					     POSIX Programmer's Manual						PTHREAD_CANCEL(3P)

PROLOG
This manual page is part of the POSIX Programmer's Manual. The Linux implementation of this interface may differ (consult the correspond- ing Linux manual page for details of Linux behavior), or the interface may not be implemented on Linux. NAME
pthread_cancel - cancel execution of a thread SYNOPSIS
#include <pthread.h> int pthread_cancel(pthread_t thread); DESCRIPTION
The pthread_cancel() function shall request that thread be canceled. The target thread's cancelability state and type determines when the cancellation takes effect. When the cancellation is acted on, the cancellation cleanup handlers for thread shall be called. When the last cancellation cleanup handler returns, the thread-specific data destructor functions shall be called for thread. When the last destructor function returns, thread shall be terminated. The cancellation processing in the target thread shall run asynchronously with respect to the calling thread returning from pthread_can- cel(). RETURN VALUE
If successful, the pthread_cancel() function shall return zero; otherwise, an error number shall be returned to indicate the error. ERRORS
The pthread_cancel() function may fail if: ESRCH No thread could be found corresponding to that specified by the given thread ID. The pthread_cancel() function shall not return an error code of [EINTR]. The following sections are informative. EXAMPLES
None. APPLICATION USAGE
None. RATIONALE
Two alternative functions were considered for sending the cancellation notification to a thread. One would be to define a new SIGCANCEL signal that had the cancellation semantics when delivered; the other was to define the new pthread_cancel() function, which would trigger the cancellation semantics. The advantage of a new signal was that so much of the delivery criteria were identical to that used when trying to deliver a signal that making cancellation notification a signal was seen as consistent. Indeed, many implementations implement cancellation using a special sig- nal. On the other hand, there would be no signal functions that could be used with this signal except pthread_kill(), and the behavior of the delivered cancellation signal would be unlike any previously existing defined signal. The benefits of a special function include the recognition that this signal would be defined because of the similar delivery criteria and that this is the only common behavior between a cancellation request and a signal. In addition, the cancellation delivery mechanism does not have to be implemented as a signal. There are also strong, if not stronger, parallels with language exception mechanisms than with sig- nals that are potentially obscured if the delivery mechanism is visibly closer to signals. In the end, it was considered that as there were so many exceptions to the use of the new signal with existing signals functions it would be misleading. A special function has resolved this problem. This function was carefully defined so that an implementation wishing to pro- vide the cancellation functions on top of signals could do so. The special function also means that implementations are not obliged to implement cancellation with signals. FUTURE DIRECTIONS
None. SEE ALSO
pthread_exit(), pthread_cond_timedwait(), pthread_join(), pthread_setcancelstate(), the Base Definitions volume of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001, <pthread.h> COPYRIGHT
Portions of this text are reprinted and reproduced in electronic form from IEEE Std 1003.1, 2003 Edition, Standard for Information Technol- ogy -- Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX), The Open Group Base Specifications Issue 6, Copyright (C) 2001-2003 by the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc and The Open Group. In the event of any discrepancy between this version and the original IEEE and The Open Group Standard, the original IEEE and The Open Group Standard is the referee document. The original Standard can be obtained online at http://www.opengroup.org/unix/online.html . IEEE
/The Open Group 2003 PTHREAD_CANCEL(3P)
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