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Top Forums UNIX for Advanced & Expert Users What's your most useful shell? Post 302505684 by Corona688 on Thursday 17th of March 2011 03:03:21 PM
Old 03-17-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin
This is one reason why I suggested "read x <&$f" as an alternative form - it makes it very clear to anyone reading the code that the caller is reading from an open file descriptor (regardless of whether $f is a plain, numeric FD, or some kind of special object representing an open file), rather than specifying a filename for redirection.
That's already valid syntax that already does something completely different.

Code:
FD=0
cat <&$FD

Shoehorning your solution in there will break existing code. Pick something else.
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Well, $ generally means some substitution is happening. It is always a string at present - in part because the shell can't really deal in anything else.

But it could... There's no reason it couldn't.
...aside from the fact that you want this to be a shell language, that is. Among other things that means weak typing. If you don't want a shell language, don't use a shell language.
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There are various little reasons I'm not too thrilled with that approach: like having to specify the filenames at the end of the block
No you don't.

Code:
<file_in >file_out cat

[edit] that doesn't work for shell builtins like while. You can bodge it in with <file cat | while but that's not elegant. The ability to do so could be a useful addition.

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...instead of wherever it makes sense within the block... What if you've got an "if" statement that tests whether a file exists, and you want the file to be opened only if the condition is true?
Then you check if the file exists, and open it. You have all those features already. Nothing's forcing you to redirect into code blocks except that it frequently makes sense to do so; if you don't want to use this feature sensibly, don't use a shell language.

Writing shell code frequently means different decisions about how you lay out your code because of the way code blocks work. If you don't want that, don't use a shell.
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Also, the scoping mechanism appears to be broken in my installed version of bash... (4.1.5) - the file stays open. I don't know offhand if this is considered a bug.
I'd presume not. Why should {f} close just because it's on the same line? It's not like stdin closes.

Last edited by Corona688; 03-17-2011 at 04:10 PM..
 

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