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Special Forums Windows & DOS: Issues & Discussions Ping, Window 7 vs Ubuntu 10.4 Post 302438748 by jim mcnamara on Tuesday 20th of July 2010 04:18:18 PM
Old 07-20-2010
Great question.

I know what Ubuntu does, but Windows - who knows. The ICMP protocol allows for pretty long timeouts before it gives up. It is also like UDP in that is unreliable. See RFC 792, which ubuntu follows.

In the past, MS was notorious for deciding to create their own standards. I would assume if you see deviant behavior, it is due to an icmp firewall setting:

Create an Inbound ICMP Rule on Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, or Windows Server 2008 R2

I cannot find the rest of the MSDN stuff on icmp for some reason.... probably me.

For production, this means you would have to configure all of your Win 7 boxes the same in this regard - for TCP/IP timeouts as well.

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icmp(n) 							 Tnm Tcl Extension							   icmp(n)

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NAME
icmp - Send ICMP messages to hosts on the Internet. _________________________________________________________________ DESCRIPTION
The icmp command allows to send Internet Control Messages (ICMP) (RFC 792, RFC 1122) to a list of hosts on the Internet. ICMP messages can be used to check whether hosts are reachable. The icmp command can also be used to trace routes to Internet hosts by sending UDP datagrams to unused UDP ports and interpreting the ICMP responses (Van Jacobsen and Steve Deering algorithm). ICMP COMMAND
The icmp command always accepts a list of target hosts. ICMP messages are send to the targets in a round-robin fashion which allows to check entire IP address ranges or a list of core routers efficiently. The user of the icmp command should be careful not to flood a network with ICMP requests. icmp [options] Invoking the icmp command with options but without any command arguments allows to retrieve and change the default values. See the description of supported options below. Default values are bound to a Tcl interpreter which allows to have multiple Tcl interpreter with different defaults. icmp [options] echo hosts The icmp echo command can be used to test the reachability of IP devices by sending ICMP echo requests to the hosts. The command returns a list of host / round trip time pairs. The round trip time is returned in milliseconds. A negative round trip time indi- cates that a host did not respond in the timeout interval. icmp [options] mask hosts The icmp mask command sends ICMP mask requests and returns a list of host / netmask pairs. The mask will be set to 0.0.0.0 if a host does not respond to ICMP mask requests. icmp [options] timestamp hosts The icmp timestamp command retrieves timestamps using the ICMP timestamp request. This command returns an estimate of the time dif- ference between local time and the time on the hosts given in hosts. The command returns a list of host / time offset pairs. The time offset is returned in milliseconds. An empty time offset indicates that a host did not respond in the timeout interval. icmp [options] ttl num hosts The icmp ttl command, which may not be supported on every operating system, sends a UDP packet to an unused port number with the time to live field of the IP header set to num. This command returns a list of host / round trip time pairs, where the host is the IP device being num hops away. The round trip time is returned in milliseconds. A negative round trip time indicates that a host did not respond in the timeout interval. icmp [options] trace num hosts The icmp trace command works similar to the icmp ttl command but it always returns the destination address even when the responding host chooses another interface with a different IP address to send the reply. This can be used to trace a route to a host since the command returns the host that discards the packet if it does not reach the destination. ICMP OPTIONS
The following options control how ICMP requests are send and how the icmp command deals with lost ICMP packets. -timeout time The -timeout option defines the time the icmp command will wait for a response. The time is defined in seconds with a default of 5 seconds. -retries number The -retries option defines how many times a request is retransmitted during the timeout interval. The default number of retries is 2. -delay time The -delay option defines the minimum delay between two outgoing ICMP packets. The delay time is defined in milliseconds with a default delay of 0 milliseconds. Delays are useful to reduce the load on intermediate devices like gateways or bridges. -size number The -size option allows to control the size of ICMP packets. The number defines the size of ICMP packets in bytes with a default size of 64 bytes. Sizes smaller than 64 bytes are silently rounded to 64 bytes. BUGS
The icmp command requires the setuid root program ntping(8) because sending icmp packets requires access to raw sockets on most operating systems. SEE ALSO
scotty(1), ntping(8), Tnm(n), Tcl(n) AUTHORS
Juergen Schoenwaelder <schoenw@cs.utwente.nl> Tnm icmp(n)
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