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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? Where would you start? (question for the programmer / hacker) Post 302339073 by New2AllThis on Wednesday 29th of July 2009 04:45:22 PM
Old 07-29-2009
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Originally Posted by [URL="https://www.unix.com/members/302019937.html
sparcguy[/URL]"]The only final outcome for a "Awesome Hacker" is prison. Do something that will affect a lot of people in the world and the FBI will send someone to pick you up .... bring lots of of KY, you gonna need it for your prison pals.
Aren't there ways of covering ones tracks, being undetectable, etc...? I like movies like Sneakers. Life is different from the movies, but some of it is the same. Watching these kinds of movies gets me motivated, but then when I go to study and realise how much there is to learn, I start to lose that motivation.

I wish I started learning this stuff when I was much younger.
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Originally Posted by [URL="https://www.unix.com/members/302054671.html
pludi[/URL]"]Hacking and Coding aren't easy, and most people take the entertainment from the things they learn, and yes, this includes books, man pages, and [COLOR=#2B4782 ! important][COLOR=#2B4782 ! important]source [COLOR=#2B4782 ! important]code[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] of others.
Is there anything out there that will give me the motivation that I need to start learning about these things, and most importantly, sticking to it and not giving up? Unfortunately, as history proves, I tend to be one of those people who starts things, gets bored, and then quits. I need to change.
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My ideas:
  • Learn to use [COLOR=#2B4782 ! important][COLOR=#2B4782 ! important]UNIX[/COLOR][/COLOR]Image
    (Linux, *BSD, and OpenSolaris come to mind as they are free [as in speech, not as in beer])
  • Learn the command line
  • Start learning C. The C Programming Language by Kernighan and Ritchie is still the best starters book IMO
  • Start with small coding projects, like a simple alarm clock, and move up. If you need something, look for libraries that provide what you need, and learn how to use them.
  • Keep learning: I can't stress this enough. If a tool (language, program, algorithm) doesn't do what you need it to, switch it. Learn a new language (most programmers are fluent in 2-3, and can get by on 6-12 more), take a new look at things (Bubble-Sort is nice and simple, but deadly slow for large structures)
Great, thanks! I already have a C++ book. I started learning C++ last year, read about 50 pages... Anyway, I'm going to try again. Any more tips? By the way, I've never been too interested in learning... Is there anything that will help me with this?
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Originally Posted by [URL="https://www.unix.com/members/39622.html
matrixmadhan[/URL]"]This means, simply you can't get there. It's by sheer hardwork, enthusiasm many have reached that level.
Well, I have to believe that it's possible. Are there strategies for developing the enthusiasm to learn this?

Anyway, I'm starting on Friday (C++). Until then, I plan to read things that will motivate me. I need to change and that's why I choose to learn to program / hack.

Thanks for all your help, everyone. If there's anything else, let me know. Thanks!
 

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