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Top Forums Shell Programming and Scripting User Idle Time Post 302182815 by era on Monday 7th of April 2008 02:07:17 PM
Old 04-07-2008
I did this in one window:

Code:
while true; do ls -l /dev/pts/1; done

Then I started typing in another window, which is connected to /dev/pts/1. The time stamp changed immediately, although then -- the granularity being only one minute in the ls -l output -- seemed stuck. Tried again after the minute changed, and again, it updated basically immediately.

You pause in a program which is running on the terminal you are watching? You want to catch input even when the tty is not actually responding? If I run sleep 600 and then type in something during that time, the tty time stamp does not update. But that would seem to pretty much match a reasonable definition of "idle", from the system's perspective, although certainly from the user's perspective, if you are typoing (oops) at it, you are not idle.

If you pwn the system (I guess you do) then I suppose you could attach a kernel module to the tty driver or something ... sounds like too much work.

Last edited by era; 04-07-2008 at 03:11 PM.. Reason: Philosophical remarks on "idle"
 

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PTY(4)							   BSD Kernel Interfaces Manual 						    PTY(4)

NAME
pty -- BSD-style compatibility pseudo-terminal driver SYNOPSIS
device pty DESCRIPTION
The pty driver provides support for the traditional BSD naming scheme that was used for accessing pseudo-terminals. When the device /dev/ptyXX is being opened, a new terminal shall be created with the pts(4) driver. A device node for this terminal shall be created, which has the name /dev/ttyXX. New code should not try to allocate pseudo-terminals using this interface. It is only provided for compatibility with older C libraries that tried to open such devices when posix_openpt(2) was being called. FILES
The BSD-style compatibility pseudo-terminal driver uses the following device names: /dev/pty[l-sL-S][0-9a-v] Pseudo-terminal master devices. /dev/tty[l-sL-S][0-9a-v] Pseudo-terminal slave devices. DIAGNOSTICS
None. SEE ALSO
posix_openpt(2), pts(4), tty(4) HISTORY
A pseudo-terminal driver appeared in 4.2BSD. BUGS
Unlike previous implementations, the master slave device nodes are destroyed when the PTY becomes unused. A call to stat(2) on a nonexistent master device will already cause a new master device node to be created. The master device can only be destroyed by opening and closing it. The pty driver cannot be unloaded, because it cannot determine if it is being used. BSD
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