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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? Software engineers, real and otherwise Post 302145464 by drl on Wednesday 14th of November 2007 09:16:12 AM
Old 11-14-2007
Software engineers, real and otherwise

Hi.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bakunin
As I believe this would indeed add content to this thread i am going to answer here instead of writing a PN to you:

real software engineers write programs

"other" / "not real" software engineers use graphical tools to create input for other graphical tools, which have symbolical output, which is fed to pseudo-generators, which create pseudocode for other generators, which generate code for other generators, which finally generate program code, which is fed to a compiler and then run. Don't ask, why a "Hello-World"-program takes 20 minutes to load and needs a minimum of 16GB RAM to run - RAM is cheap anyways, right? And the process is very object-oriented, streamlined, hyper-ultra-anything, turbo-accelerated, and so on and so on.

Of course they (the second type of "software engineers") do not need to analyze anything - they just shuffle the mouse around, click on the most colourful icon and - done (or so). That the users of this b*sh*t are often using some Excel worksheet to keep track of the list the program was written to provide in first place - just a minor issue. It may not fulfill its purpose, but it definitely is easy to use, easy to adapt (it can easily be brought to not do other things equally slow), etc., etc., blather, blather, ...

I hope i have made my point clear. I may sound bitter, but i have administered too many SAP-systems to find these things still funny.

bakunin
Rather than go off-topic in https://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-que...post302145451I I started this thread.

In addition to continuing the discussion here, there are related threads on this topic at: How do you "get into" the programming mentality? - LinuxQuestions.org and Soapbox: The "Artisan Mentality" - LinuxQuestions.org

Best wishes ... cheers, drl
 

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WRITE(1)						     Linux Programmer's Manual							  WRITE(1)

NAME
write - send a message to another user SYNOPSIS
write user [ttyname] DESCRIPTION
Write allows you to communicate with other users, by copying lines from your terminal to theirs. When you run the write command, the user you are writing to gets a message of the form: Message from yourname@yourhost on yourtty at hh:mm ... Any further lines you enter will be copied to the specified user's terminal. If the other user wants to reply, they must run write as well. When you are done, type an end-of-file or interrupt character. The other user will see the message EOF indicating that the conversation is over. You can prevent people (other than the super-user) from writing to you with the mesg(1) command. Some commands, for example nroff(1) and pr(1), may disallow writing automatically, so that your output isn't overwritten. If the user you want to write to is logged in on more than one terminal, you can specify which terminal to write to by specifying the ter- minal name as the second operand to the write command. Alternatively, you can let write select one of the terminals - it will pick the one with the shortest idle time. This is so that if the user is logged in at work and also dialed up from home, the message will go to the right place. The traditional protocol for writing to someone is that the string `-o', either at the end of a line or on a line by itself, means that it's the other person's turn to talk. The string `oo' means that the person believes the conversation to be over. SEE ALSO
mesg(1), talk(1), who(1) HISTORY
A write command appeared in Version 6 AT&T UNIX. 12 March 1995 WRITE(1)
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