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Operating Systems HP-UX posix ipc message queue Post 302072035 by cadanir on Wednesday 26th of April 2006 01:57:46 PM
Old 04-26-2006
posix ipc message queue

Hello,

My question is related to "pipcs -qa" command under HP-UX 11i PA-RISC 64 bits.

We have a little C program that creates posix ipc message queues using the mq_open() system function.

The program fail with 'No space left on device' error when we create big queues. What is the system limit of the size of all queues ?

If we calculates the sum of all the MNUM*QBYTES columns in the output of 'pipcs -qa' the error arrive when we are close to 860 or 900 Mbytes.

Is there a way to go beyond this amount of memory ?

How the system actually allocate the memory when we create a posix queue of 1024 bytes for a message and for example 100000 as the max number of messages ? Are the 1024 * 100000 bytes allocated when the queue is created or at usage time that is when we really put some messages on the queue ?

Is this related to the fact that HP-UX divide his memory space into 4 quadrants of 1GB each ? Is there a workaround ?

I already compiled the program using the 64 bit options of the K&R
style "bundled" compiler, I also tried 'setmemwindow' without success...

I'm not sure if posix IPC message queues are implemented using the mmap() function, if it is, then what is the max. shared memory size of mmap() ?

I also failed to convince users not to use so big queues...

If we cannot go beyond 900 Mbytes for the size of all queues we are planning to use something else like Java JMS or MQseries or a database ...


Thanks for your advice (and for reading this long post),

Cengiz ADANIR

Last edited by cadanir; 04-27-2006 at 09:21 AM..
 

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MSGGET(2)						     Linux Programmer's Manual							 MSGGET(2)

NAME
msgget - get a System V message queue identifier SYNOPSIS
#include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/ipc.h> #include <sys/msg.h> int msgget(key_t key, int msgflg); DESCRIPTION
The msgget() system call returns the System V message queue identifier associated with the value of the key argument. A new message queue is created if key has the value IPC_PRIVATE or key isn't IPC_PRIVATE, no message queue with the given key key exists, and IPC_CREAT is specified in msgflg. If msgflg specifies both IPC_CREAT and IPC_EXCL and a message queue already exists for key, then msgget() fails with errno set to EEXIST. (This is analogous to the effect of the combination O_CREAT | O_EXCL for open(2).) Upon creation, the least significant bits of the argument msgflg define the permissions of the message queue. These permission bits have the same format and semantics as the permissions specified for the mode argument of open(2). (The execute permissions are not used.) If a new message queue is created, then its associated data structure msqid_ds (see msgctl(2)) is initialized as follows: msg_perm.cuid and msg_perm.uid are set to the effective user ID of the calling process. msg_perm.cgid and msg_perm.gid are set to the effective group ID of the calling process. The least significant 9 bits of msg_perm.mode are set to the least significant 9 bits of msgflg. msg_qnum, msg_lspid, msg_lrpid, msg_stime and msg_rtime are set to 0. msg_ctime is set to the current time. msg_qbytes is set to the system limit MSGMNB. If the message queue already exists the permissions are verified, and a check is made to see if it is marked for destruction. RETURN VALUE
If successful, the return value will be the message queue identifier (a nonnegative integer), otherwise -1 with errno indicating the error. ERRORS
On failure, errno is set to one of the following values: EACCES A message queue exists for key, but the calling process does not have permission to access the queue, and does not have the CAP_IPC_OWNER capability. EEXIST A message queue exists for key and msgflg specified both IPC_CREAT and IPC_EXCL. ENOENT No message queue exists for key and msgflg did not specify IPC_CREAT. ENOMEM A message queue has to be created but the system does not have enough memory for the new data structure. ENOSPC A message queue has to be created but the system limit for the maximum number of message queues (MSGMNI) would be exceeded. CONFORMING TO
SVr4, POSIX.1-2001. NOTES
The inclusion of <sys/types.h> and <sys/ipc.h> isn't required on Linux or by any version of POSIX. However, some old implementations required the inclusion of these header files, and the SVID also documented their inclusion. Applications intended to be portable to such old systems may need to include these header files. IPC_PRIVATE isn't a flag field but a key_t type. If this special value is used for key, the system call ignores everything but the least significant 9 bits of msgflg and creates a new message queue (on success). The following is a system limit on message queue resources affecting a msgget() call: MSGMNI System wide maximum number of message queues: policy dependent (on Linux, this limit can be read and modified via /proc/sys/ker- nel/msgmni). Linux notes Until version 2.3.20 Linux would return EIDRM for a msgget() on a message queue scheduled for deletion. BUGS
The name choice IPC_PRIVATE was perhaps unfortunate, IPC_NEW would more clearly show its function. SEE ALSO
msgctl(2), msgrcv(2), msgsnd(2), ftok(3), capabilities(7), mq_overview(7), svipc(7) COLOPHON
This page is part of release 3.53 of the Linux man-pages project. A description of the project, and information about reporting bugs, can be found at http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/. Linux 2012-05-31 MSGGET(2)
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