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Operating Systems HP-UX posix ipc message queue Post 302072035 by cadanir on Wednesday 26th of April 2006 01:57:46 PM
Old 04-26-2006
posix ipc message queue

Hello,

My question is related to "pipcs -qa" command under HP-UX 11i PA-RISC 64 bits.

We have a little C program that creates posix ipc message queues using the mq_open() system function.

The program fail with 'No space left on device' error when we create big queues. What is the system limit of the size of all queues ?

If we calculates the sum of all the MNUM*QBYTES columns in the output of 'pipcs -qa' the error arrive when we are close to 860 or 900 Mbytes.

Is there a way to go beyond this amount of memory ?

How the system actually allocate the memory when we create a posix queue of 1024 bytes for a message and for example 100000 as the max number of messages ? Are the 1024 * 100000 bytes allocated when the queue is created or at usage time that is when we really put some messages on the queue ?

Is this related to the fact that HP-UX divide his memory space into 4 quadrants of 1GB each ? Is there a workaround ?

I already compiled the program using the 64 bit options of the K&R
style "bundled" compiler, I also tried 'setmemwindow' without success...

I'm not sure if posix IPC message queues are implemented using the mmap() function, if it is, then what is the max. shared memory size of mmap() ?

I also failed to convince users not to use so big queues...

If we cannot go beyond 900 Mbytes for the size of all queues we are planning to use something else like Java JMS or MQseries or a database ...


Thanks for your advice (and for reading this long post),

Cengiz ADANIR

Last edited by cadanir; 04-27-2006 at 09:21 AM..
 

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MSGGET(2)						     Linux Programmer's Manual							 MSGGET(2)

NAME
msgget - get a message queue identifier SYNOPSIS
#include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/ipc.h> #include <sys/msg.h> int msgget(key_t key, int msgflg); DESCRIPTION
The function returns the message queue identifier associated to the value of the key argument. A new message queue is created if key has value IPC_PRIVATE or key isn't IPC_PRIVATE, no existing message queue is associated to key, and IPC_CREAT is asserted in msgflg (i.e. msgflg&IPC_CREAT is nonzero). The presence in msgflg of the fields IPC_CREAT and IPC_EXCL plays the same role, with respect to the exis- tence of the message queue, as the presence of O_CREAT and O_EXCL in the mode argument of the open(2) system call: i.e. the msgget function fails if msgflg asserts both IPC_CREAT and IPC_EXCL and a message queue already exists for key. Upon creation, the lower 9 bits of the argument msgflg define the access permissions of the message queue. These permission bits have the same format and semantics as the access permissions parameter in open(2) or creat(2) system calls. (The execute permissions are not used.) Furthermore, while creating, the system call initializes the system message queue data structure msqid_ds as follows: msg_perm.cuid and msg_perm.uid are set to the effective user-ID of the calling process. msg_perm.cgid and msg_perm.gid are set to the effective group-ID of the calling process. The lowest order 9 bits of msg_perm.mode are set to the lowest order 9 bit of msgflg. msg_qnum, msg_lspid, msg_lrpid, msg_stime and msg_rtime are set to 0. msg_ctime is set to the current time. msg_qbytes is set to the system limit MSGMNB. If the message queue already exists the access permissions are verified, and a check is made to see if it is marked for destruction. RETURN VALUE
If successful, the return value will be the message queue identifier (a nonnegative integer), otherwise -1 with errno indicating the error. ERRORS
For a failing return, errno will be set to one among the following values: EACCES A message queue exists for key, but the calling process has no access permissions to the queue. EEXIST A message queue exists for key and msgflg was asserting both IPC_CREAT and IPC_EXCL. EIDRM The message queue is marked for removal. ENOENT No message queue exists for key and msgflg wasn't asserting IPC_CREAT. ENOMEM A message queue has to be created but the system has not enough memory for the new data structure. ENOSPC A message queue has to be created but the system limit for the maximum number of message queues (MSGMNI) would be exceeded. NOTES
IPC_PRIVATE isn't a flag field but a key_t type. If this special value is used for key, the system call ignores everything but the lowest order 9 bits of msgflg and creates a new message queue (on success). The following is a system limit on message queue resources affecting a msgget call: MSGMNI System wide maximum number of message queues: policy dependent. BUGS
Use of IPC_PRIVATE does not actually prohibit other processes from getting access to the allocated message queue. There is currently no intrinsic way for a process to ensure exclusive access to a message queue. Asserting both IPC_CREAT and IPC_EXCL in msgflg only ensures (on success) that a new message queue will be created, it doesn't imply exclusive access to the message queue. CONFORMING TO
SVr4, SVID. SVr4 does not document the EIDRM error code. SEE ALSO
ftok(3), ipc(5), msgctl(2), msgsnd(2), msgrcv(2) Linux 0.99.13 1993-11-01 MSGGET(2)
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