What is on Your Mind?

Actually, I became disillusioned about hype nearly, 15 years ago, so paint me guilty.

I understand, especially in the western world (US certainly) that marketing hype drives the economy, especially the tech economy, and this "hype-economy", creates trillions of dollars in wealth globally, not to mention jobs and opportunities.

There is nothing fundamentally "good or bad" with the "hype-economy" because like all systems, there is "good and bad".

As the old saying goes:

This is so true, haha.

Folks love to bite the hook just like fish, that shiny, silvery or gold bait flickering in the water... so appealing...

Then BOOM!

You are hooked.

You did not "strike a nerve with me" ... I did not reply with emotion.

AND,

Basic engineering principles are not "strong opinion".

They are facts.

There is no doubt (in my mind at least) that the terms you highlighted in bold, quoting you exactly:

That is simply "marketing buzzword hype" ... it's not my opinion.

That phrase paints a picture which is meant by marketing people to sell a technology service based on a one-sided promise. That obvious to the casual observer.

Just because I do not agree with your post, does not mean it "hit a nerve".. but it is my responsibility to reply to something posted here which is hype and not factual "system engineering".

I'm a formally trained system engineering guy with 40 years of system engineering experience, all in UNIX and Linux related IT networking and computing, since before the Internet until now, still coding and administering systems, because I love it, not because I have to do it for a living.

Some people actually think all these decades of hands-on experience has a lot of value

If you don't think my reply has value, then sorry about that.

15 years ago, i had a blonde microphone hair and could not have cared less about computing.
Now i'm bald and care

How i envy you forum behemoths, being there from the start.
Where did it all go wrong....

Well i'll tell you (i do love philosophical discussions)

It went wrong when marketing become blunt lying.
When sales became unrealistic.
When folks started studying something cause of hype not of interest/talent.

Above cause dramatic quality drop, due to hyperproduction of code and components.
Everything needs to be done now - less error handling, run faster - security often comes last (spectre, meltdown, bad coding practice).

Just reading the press :

BA lost 400k of user credentials due to hacking
Airports unable to check in passengers due to software bugs
BSOD on aircraft carriers

21st Gatwick airport problems :
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...vonderburg.jpg

I mean, does it get any more mission critical then that

Regards
Peasant.

In the early days of UNIX.COM over a decade ago, we had a lot more of these high level abstract, teaching discussions.

From my count, we are one of the oldest, if not THE oldest, "original tech forum" still standing and running.

We have some core folks here with the combined experience of many hundreds of years experience in IT; not only me.

Some are not active now, some come and go; even me over the years, I have been busy on other projects, some lasting years, and not as active as now.

But, we at UNIX.COM are still adding great value with a huge database of knowledge and factual information and solutions to real-world problems.

Thanks to everyone to have contributed over the years and who contribute now.

If I had of not been sided tracked with scuba diving and traveling the world for five years, and other projects (like cyberspace situational awareness), UNIX.COM would be much more popular (busy with more active users) as I could have kept the forums more current with new features.

But we will always strive to be "low noise" and "high signal" at UNIX.COM.

I think we have one of the highest "signal to noise" ratios on the planet with regard to information facts and technology.

Plus, I am the first to admit, I tend to go to YouTube for tutorials and knowledge these days and spend little time in any forum, except this one.

I would like to repeat that it is all about CI/CD ( I do not have to highlight it since I made myself clear before). Companies (customers) that do not implement CI/CD for the most part do not appreciate the evolution to the Cloud. Thanks to Cloud computing and the implementation of automation the speed of developing and delivering time for applications is faster. I enjoy engineering systems that almost do not require manual intervention from the moment that we commit code to source control.
I have enjoyed seeing teams confidence raise by the nature of CI, knowing that tests are well crafted, and real to what it will show in production. That a whole piece of infrastructure is created at demand, automatically for CI and once that the fast feedback is reported, it is brought down until the next test, which it could be some few minutes later. This is not a buzzword, it is real results that benefits organizations that wants faster deployments without compromising quality assurance and I have the fortune to work doing that. There is pride in me when I know I have engineered a system that provides reproducible results and that has been committed to source control and that can be brought to life in several minutes.
In fact, with the utilization of containers now I can even provide quicker infrastructure where immutability is possible.
It is not my intention to convince anyone (I am not in that business) but I want to reintegrate my original statement.

That's all great, and well written, but it has little to do with UNIX.COM moving our legacy server over to a new data center and upgrading.

If I moved it to the cloud, I would consider that a downgrade, not an upgrade, LOL

We have been on the cloud before... it's not an upgrade for UNIX.COM and our server.

Moving UNIX.COM to "the cloud" would be a downgrade, at least based on my experience.

And in closing moving to the cloud would not provide UNIX.COM:

This I know as a fact from years of experience.
Cheers.

I am sorry if I ever gave you the impression that I was somewhat inferring that you or UNIX.COM should be in the Cloud. My post was prompted as a personal opinion following in the same spirit of bakunin's post #9. It was not even a response to his comments but rather a conversational comment based on my experience.

You validate my commentaries. If you do not CI/CD you do not need the Cloud, otherwise your experience might not be what you expected. And this is common with a lot of customers.

Originally, I asked you about the Cloud and unix.com based on the hero effort you have to do to move to another datacenter. You responded why not and that was it for me concerning the matter and I gave you thanks for responding me, I did not engage you any more about that response.