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# 8  
Old 11-12-2004
Quote:
Originally posted by locustfurnace
Thats a very old version of Caldera's OpenLinux packaged with the book. If the hardware is much newer, (which it is) then you most likely will have issues getting it to work.
I used OpenLinux a long long time ago, and it worked back on my then newer 200mhz box. But I've never gotten it to work on any of the newer equipment since then.

Does the monitor show anything at all, such as the POST? Which would be the memory counting, and alittle info about the hardware.

If this is true, then what you might be meaning is that the X server does not work. And that would be due to being such an old version of the X server not able to work with your monitor & video card.

Since you say you reformatted the drive, that means you had your hands inside the case, it is possible, seen this happen alot, where someone removes a hardware item and accidently bumps the video card slightly, thus causing the card to loosen in the slot. Try re-seating the video card. Completely remove it and then re-insert the card.

It is possible the first time, the X server failed to work, giving you a blank screen, and when you removed the hard drive, you bumped the card, so that the card now is the issue, while the first time was the X server.

Look for signs of the bios working, by the beeps or if you have a Optical mouse, if the mouse lights up. Not the surest sign, but it should give alittle clue.
Yeah I think it is a very old version of OpenLinux. Because the first thing I tried was to install it on a separate partition on my main PC. I had a problem with it then and ended up unable to boot windows xp or linux, so I installed windows again and then destroyed the linux partition. Got everything [almost] working back to normal (except for a dvd problem).

The monitor works. Because I have a dual head video card on my main PC and use the monitor with it also. It works perfect. But I have a KVM switch attached to my 2nd monitor and that feeds off to the 2nd PC I built. When I turn on the 2nd PC (the one now giving me the problem) and switch the kvm to use that monitor, the screen just goes blank, even though I see the light in the computer and hear that it is on.

The video card in that computer is securely in place. I tried removing it and testing it on a 3rd PC I have, and it worked fine. I then installed it back into my 2nd pc (the one giving me the problem) and turn on the computer, but the screen still remains blank.


Hmmm....
# 9  
Old 11-12-2004
Quote:
Originally posted by norsk hedensk
the moniter actually gets no power? no light, no clicking sound, no nothing?

sounds like a hardware problem not a software problem.

and what locustfurnace said about old software not working with new hardware, in this case it is not always true.

if its for an x86 arch. it should work. ive had few problems getting old versions of linux to work on up to date machines. i am not saying that he is wrong, just that his statements were too general for you to regard them as an end all be all explanation for why your system isnt working.

id try another monitor on that box.



yes, any sign at all that the computer IS booting?

The monitor works on my main pc, just not on the 2nd one. And I think the bios boots up because I see the lights on PC come on (if this is an indication).
# 10  
Old 11-12-2004
Quote:
Originally posted by zazzybob
I've had similar problems with certain models of Compaq Presario desktops - where the machine would appear to do nothing - the monitor would remain on standby, the power light would come on the base unit, but nothing else. If you'd cycle power a few times - the thing would come up. I never really bothered investigating the problem further as these are my "legacy" boxes that I scavenge and fiddle with.

Even if you have really smart new hardware, you'll be able to get most of the oldest Linux distros running, even if it's in text mode with no sound, USB support, etc. It's up to you what you want to get out of the machine.

Also, have you attempted removing the KVM from the setup, and using the monitor directly connected to the troubled box?

As norsk said, are there *any* signs of life at all? Can you hear the machine booting even with the monitor "off"? If so, this is probably an issue with the KVM, maybe that particular port/channel is knackered.

Cheers
ZB

Yes... I did try the monitor without the kvm switch and I still get nothing. There are signs of life in the pc, however, be cause I do hear it booting up.
# 11  
Old 11-12-2004
What motherboard is it? I have an AMD XP 2500 also, on a Soyo Black Ultra Dragon KT400. I've experienced problems with the system booting. If I reboot the system, it sometimes does not reboot, I usually have to hold the reset switch in for around 4 seconds and then the system restarts. But not all the times. sometimes I'd have to shut the box off from the switch on the power supply.
This leaves me with the case's power on, but the monitor not powering on as well. Since I later built another box with the same board, CPU, but with a different case and power supply, that box has no issues powering up. I've never bothered seeing exactly what the problem is to fix it, since its just a slight annoyance. It might very well be the power supply. You might also want to check that the motherboard is correctly grounded to the case.

What I usually do is.
Try shutting the box off from the power supply On/Off switch, located on the backside of the computer case. Listen for any odd sounds when turning it off or back on. Then try turning the machine on, and count how long it takes for the machine to turn back on, look for any signs, I look for the optical mouse to light up, which indicates the machine is working.
If the machine does not restart in about 30-40 seconds, hold the reset switch down for a count of 4, release and look for any signs the machine is starting.
# 12  
Old 11-12-2004
Sorry to jump in late but I have a thought I didn't notice in my quick readthrough.

Could it be that the PC is working fine but the version of Linux you installed is spitting out a resolution the monitor doesn't support? Maybe the X config isn't right or something. Although if it was X I guess you'd see the boot messages ok then when it started up the desktop it would fail.

Just a thought. I'm not sure how you'd check that possibility other than throwing another OS on that same computer and see if that works.
# 13  
Old 11-13-2004
Something is up, because it started up recently. But then when I turned it off and started it again, I would not come up. Could it be the power supply? Its 300 watt.

BTW, its an ASRock k7vt4a+ mobo
# 14  
Old 11-14-2004
I had nothing better to do, so I started googling your problem. Here's what I came up with:

(a) k7vt4a+ seems to be highly sensitive to the correctness of the FSB frequency. See: http://www.asrock.com/support/instru...setting_K7.pdf
pg. 8

(b) k7vt4a+ can only take a 1.5v graphics card, quote from motherboards userguide http://www.asrock.com/Drivers/Manual/K7VT4A%2B_UM.pdf pg. 6:
Quote:
Do NOT use a 3.3V AGP card on the AGP slot of this motherboard!
It may cause permanent damage!
(c) Users with other motherboards, but with the same problem found that resetting the BIOS (clearing CMOS) (temporarily) resolved the problem. See the previous link, pg. 13

I hope this helps.
 
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