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# 162  
Old 09-07-2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottn
Hey!

We're not in the People's Republic of ____________ now!

Votes count as standing.

I was really (really) tempted to close this poll while KSH was ahead. But then I remembered...

We're not in the People's Republic of ____________ now!

Smilie
Your poll is not very democratic either... seeing it's missing very real shell options. The fact that this was never rectified since 2005 when the poll was introduced makes this more of a authoritarian poll under totalitarian rule. Smilie
# 163  
Old 09-07-2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by methyl
How many commercial scripters set "bash" to "Posix" I wonder?
Any that run it as #!/bin/sh, that's who:
Code:
                      ...When  invoked  as  sh,  bash
       enters posix mode after the startup files are read.

...which I almost always do. Only when using BASH-specific features like =~ regex matching and extended read flags do I use #!/bin/bash.

If you have any specific complaints -- none of this vague muttering -- about the BASH shell I'd love to hear them: Better knowledge of the limits and problems of the shell I use the most would be very useful.
# 164  
Old 09-07-2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corona688
If you have any specific complaints -- none of this vague muttering -- about the BASH shell I'd love to hear them: Better knowledge of the limits and problems of the shell I use the most would be very useful.
Here are some bash annoyances in my opinion:
- By default, there is no shared history between bash sessions and trying to enable it is complex still limited.
- multi-line commands are converted to single line when recalled from history. ksh/ksh93 preserves formatting and is much more convenient here.
- the first command of a pipeline is processed in the main shell while ksh picks the last one, a more logic choice IMHO.
- No FPATH (function autoloading).
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# 165  
Old 09-07-2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlliagre
Here are some bash annoyances in my opinion:
- By default, there is no shared history between bash sessions and trying to enable it is complex still limited.
Very true.
Quote:
- multi-line commands are converted to single line when recalled from history. ksh/ksh93 preserves formatting and is much more convenient here.
Er, which ksh are you using? On my system, AT&T ksh93 "preserves" multi-line command history by only recalling the first line! Smilie
Quote:
- No FPATH (function autoloading).
Interesting.
# 166  
Old 09-07-2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corona688
Er, which ksh are you using? On my system, AT&T ksh93 "preserves" multi-line command history by only recalling the first line! Smilie
I'm using either Solaris ksh88i or AT&T ksh93t+. They both allow editing multi-lines commands without messing with them like bash.

ksh88 or ksh93:
Code:
$ for i in a b c
> do
> echo $i
> done
a
b
c
$ history
...
960 for i in a b c
  do
  echo $i
  done

bash:
Code:
$ for i in a b c
> do
> echo $i
> done
a
b
c
$ history
  ...
  245  for i in a b c; do echo $i; done

# 167  
Old 09-07-2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlliagre
I'm using either Solaris ksh88i or AT&T ksh93t+. They both allow editing multi-lines commands without messing with them like bash.
Not here they don't.
Code:
$ ksh --version
  version         sh (AT&T Research) 1993-12-28 s+
$ ksh
$ set -o emacs
$ for a in 1 2 3
> do
> echo $a
> done
1
2
3
$ for a in 1 2 3
>

The last line is it waiting for me to type in the rest of the command, having recalled only the first line of it.

[edit] I just tried vi mode. It crams it all one one big line.

Last edited by Corona688; 09-07-2010 at 07:32 PM..
# 168  
Old 09-07-2010
Might be a bug or something with the emacs mode. As I always use "set -o vi", I'm immune to it Smilie
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