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Old 01-04-2011
Vintage unix

Hi, this my be a weird request but I'm wondering if it's possible to instill a vintage unix (like early 1980's) onto a laptop or desktop. If so how I would I go about downloading and installing?

I'm mainly wanting to do this as an little porject and some funsies for me.

Thanks.
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Old 01-04-2011
Sure, if you are talking about something like ISC 386/ix or Microport Unix.
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Old 01-04-2011
You don't by any chance know how I would go about installing it?
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Old 01-04-2011
Quote:
Originally Posted by dado00
.. some funsies ...
This made me think of Thief. Smilie
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Old 01-04-2011
Here are some issues:
Finding a distribution on media that you have a reader for, early 80's means 5-1/4" diskettes?
Finding drivers for a network card, assuming you can even get tcp software
Being able to work with a large hard drive. Early versions of Xenix would only read the hard drive parameters from the CMOS, and you had a choice of maybe 17 drive types, all less than 100mb.
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Old 01-04-2011
Yeah, I thought that would hinder me. I was just wondering. I'm thinking about changing tactics and buying a ye olde' computer for laughs, I've been wanting to for a while anyway. Green text would be amazing. I'm rather into old tech.
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Old 01-04-2011
I tried to install Linux onto an old 486sx box. Needed as much memory as possible, so I upgraded it to 20M (the max) and had to purchase EXPENSIVE cache chips as well.

$800 later (yes.... $800!!!!).... I had a machine that was slow and practically worthless.

Remember that the REASON why Linux (and even Unix) became doable was when Windows 95 came on the scene and we started seeing machines with 8M of memory. So... not saying you can't use an old machine... just don't go REALLY old.

Also, as others pointed out you pretty much have to match the machine/architecture for the "vintage" Unix. Sometimes it has to be a VERY precise match. Old version of SCO Unixware for example only worked on VERY specific pieces of hardware.

In general... IMHO... it's not worth the effort. Now... if you want to take an old machine and experiment with writing your own OS from scratch... knock yourself out... it can be great fun.

Oh... and lastly... people are THROWING away good old equipment that is actually useful... so I wouldn't pay anything for old hardware. For example, you should be able to snag a Pentium III host for nothing. And some of the servers there had at 2G or more of memory even. I wouldn't pay more than $50 USD for a Pentium IV based system (and those are also getting thrown out for free everywhere).

If you're in the Dallas area... I'll give you a 2cpu Opteron 246 workstation with 4G. That's a VERY powerful host. I'll even throw in 2 10K rpm SCSI drives. You can pick up the same for $100-200 easily on ebay.

Also.. (back on topic)... remember that 80's Unix (real Unix, be it BSD or SysV) was tty focused and NOT network focused. So ethernet controllers, esp, before 1985, if present, were often times AUI or 10Base2 (token ring at 4mbit was probably more popular). A lot of the parts on equipment that old, e.g. the disks, are likely to be in very bad shape.
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