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# 1  
Old 11-21-2018
Hicksd8 found it all by himself. If you don't get an answer immediately, don't panic, just wait -- we have many knowledgeable people, but they aren't active 24 hours a day.
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Old 11-26-2018
Well done!!!

If you have Solaris installation media (Solaris 8, 9, 10 or 11 SPARC version, of course) you can boot into single user with:

Code:
ok> boot cdrom -s

that will allow you to see that the hardware is capable of running Solaris.

If you:

Code:
ok> boot cdrom

it will boot and enter the Solaris install routine.

Your terminal emulator is connected to the SC after boot. If you want to talk to the main processor (after you've 'poweron' and installed Solaris) you can:

Code:
ok> console

to do that and get a login prompt.

When connected to main processor (Solaris) you can type

Code:
#.

to return to the SC.

There are a number of downloadable manuals on the web for the Netra 240 (service, install, admin, etc) so I suggest that you get your paws on those if you haven't already.

EDIT: As pointed out by Gull04 below, the Netra 240 cannot run Solaris 11.

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Old 11-26-2018
I'm putting my thoughts in writing here. Unfortunately, I cannot derive a definitive answer from the information that you have provided so I just resort to a series of statements in the hope of it being helpful.


I notice from one of your screen captures that the system date is 1/1/2000. Is the backup battery on the mobo dead? Has this hardware been idle for ages?

Did you have to login to the SC before it would let you do anything? userid/passwd combination? If the hardware has lost all its memory due to a dead battery then the userid/passwd combination to use will be admin/changeme or root/changeme.

This warning implies that your poweron command is not being executed due to no valid SC login:
Quote:
Warning: the poweron command is being ignored because the password for admin is not set.
The 'poweron' command turns on the whole main processor. AFAIR, there are no individual power commands for individual components. However, if your 'poweron' command is not executing then there is no surprise that the DVD is dead. If 'poweron' is doing its job then perhaps the DVD is faulty? Remove it and test on other hardware.

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# 4  
Old 11-28-2018
Clock Stable w/ New Battery, "Break" command & USB Port Not Working.

Dear Hicksd8,

OK, new battery is keeping the system clock stable. Thanks for the heads up Hicks! Smilie Here is the latest SC action to celebrate:

Code:
ALOM BOOTMON v1.5.4
ALOM Build Release: 008
Reset register: e0000000 EHRS ESRS LLRS

ALOM POST 1.0

TTYD - Internal Loopback Test, PASSED.

Memory Data Lines Test
Memory Data Lines Test, PASSED.

Memory Address Lines Test
  Slide address bits to test open address lines
  Test for shorted address lines
Memory Address Lines Test, PASSED.

Memory Parity Test
Memory Parity Test, PASSED.

Boot Sector FLASH CRC Test
Boot Sector FLASH CRC Test, PASSED.

Return to Boot Monitor for Handshake
ALOM POST 1.0
   Status = 00007fff

Returned from Boot Monitor and Handshake

Clearing Memory Cells
Memory Clean Complete

Loading the runtime image...
SC Alert: CRITICAL ALARM is set

SC Alert: SC System booted.

Sun(tm) Advanced Lights Out Manager 1.5.4 ()

Full VxDiag Tests

BASIC TOD TEST
  Read the TOD Clock:        WED NOV 28 13:58:57 2018
  Wait, 1 - 3 seconds
  Read the TOD Clock:        WED NOV 28 13:58:59 2018
BASIC TOD TEST, PASSED

ETHERNET CPU LOOPBACK TEST
  50 BYTE PACKET   - a 0 in field of 1's.
  50 BYTE PACKET   - a 1 in field of 0's.
  900 BYTE PACKET  - pseudo-random data.
ETHERNET CPU LOOPBACK TEST, PASSED

Full VxDiag Tests - PASSED

    Status summary  -  Status = 7FFF

       VxDiag    -          -  PASSED
       POST      -          -  PASSED
       LOOPBACK  -          -  PASSED

       I2C       -          -  PASSED
       EPROM     -          -  PASSED
       FRU PROM  -          -  PASSED

       ETHERNET  -          -  PASSED
       MAIN CRC  -          -  PASSED
       BOOT CRC  -          -  PASSED

       TTYD      -          -  PASSED
       TTYC      -          -  PASSED
       MEMORY    -          -  PASSED
       MPC850    -          -  PASSED

Please login: admin
Please Enter password: *********

sc> showdate
WED NOV 28 13:59:23 UTC 2018
sc> showdate
WED NOV 28 13:59:40 UTC 2018
sc> showdate
WED NOV 28 13:59:45 UTC 2018
sc> showdate
WED NOV 28 13:59:46 UTC 2018
sc> showdate
WED NOV 28 13:59:47 UTC 2018
sc>
sc> poweron
sc> break
Break command is disabled when system is powered off.
sc> poweroff
Host system power is already off
sc> poweron
sc> poweron
sc> poweron
sc> break
Break command is disabled when system is powered off.
sc> poweroff
Host system power is already off

There was some headache from mushy tiny battery positive terminals. To get the little new battery going, I had to slide in some wires under them and press them down with a tiny piece of electrical tape. I could be useful for somebody else in these situations, so I took pictures with my phone. Wire thickness must be right, and no aluminium foil did not work, in my case at least.

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However "poweron"-"poweroff" problem is the same. Still thinks systems is not powered and break command does not work. DVR-ROM Still does not power up or respond to front keypress. I tried the USB ports with a brand new Sandisk memory stick, tested on 2 machines. Both plugging during operation and plugging before power up did not make it show on FRU list with "showfru" command.

Which brings us to motherboard jumper situation. Below are the info available in the manual about Netra240 motherboard jumpers:
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Code:
JP1[1]
-------------
1-2 Fitted
3-4 Fitted
5-6 Not fitted
7-8 Not fitted
9-10 Fitted
Processor core voltage. Do not alter this jumper setting. Changing the setting for JP1 could cause damage to the server.


JP2
-------------
1-2 Not fitted
ALOM Flash ROM swap halves. Only service personnel should modify this setting. Fitting a jumper affects the swap.


JP3
-------------
1-2 Not fitted
ALOM reset. Used only for testing the system.


JP4
-------------
1-2 Fitted
3-4 Fitted
5-6 Not fitted
7-8 Not fitted
9-10 Not fitted
System configuration. Do not alter this jumper setting.


JP5
-------------
1-2 Not fitted
Only service personnel should modify this setting. Do not change the settings for the JP5 jumper. Only service personnel should modify the settings for this jumper.


JP6
-------------
1-2 Fitted (this is a non-functional setting)
2-3 Not fitted
ROMBO enable. Only service personnel should modify this setting. Fit jumper to 2-3 to enable ROMBO.


JP8
-------------
1-2 Fitted
Clear CMOS. Only service personnel should modify this setting. Fit jumper to 2-3 to clear CMOS.


JP10
-------------
1-2 Not fitted
Override PSON#. Only service personnel should modify this setting.


JP11
-------------
1-2 Not fitted
ROM write-protect. Only service personnel should modify this setting.


JP12
-------------
1-2 Not fitted
ALOM console bypass. Only service personnel should modify this setting.


JP13
-------------
1-2 Fitted (this is a non-functional setting)
2-3 Not fitted
OpenBoot PROM Flash ROM swap halves. Only service personnel should modify this setting. Fit jumper to 2-3 to affect swap.


JP14
-------------
1-2 Not fitted
ALOM AFT mode. Used for testing the system only.

Here is an overall picture of the board with current jumper positions:

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I will follow with an ordered picture gallery of jumpers taking care to show jumper number and whether they are set or not.

Soon.

Last edited by ozsavran; 11-28-2018 at 08:43 AM..
# 5  
Old 11-27-2018
Is it Battery or Is it Jumpers?

Dear Mr. Hicks,

Thanks again for your smart electronics probing from afar. Smilie Yes you are right, the coin battery is most probably dead. I bought this from a government surplus liquadator from Ankara, it should have been sitting somewhere for long. Its a 2006 model, I think. Battery must also be 12 years old. Seller did promise to change any parts if necessary. That we have in pocket, but he is just 400 miles from here. Smilie The battery holder seems a little delicate, I did try to take that out when it first arrived. I will have to take that out somehow now that it is relevant.

When I first entered SC, yes there was no password. But I can set a password, after that it does allow me to use the "poweron". That command again starts the main air blower inside. But then "poweroff" does respond with a "power is already off". If changing that battery doesn't solve the issue, we can try loading an OS through the 2 USB slots hopefully.

Another idea is to check the jumpers on the motherboard, IMHO. I found the table for it in the manuals. I will photo their current setup for you to inspect, in any case.

BTW, just received the "High Noon" book about McNealy from your country, the good old UK. A University of Derby discard in perfect condition. I just love reading self-promotion volumes of silicon valley boys paid for their personal advertisements. Smilie Just gobbled up Dr. David Yen's book, named "Under the Sun: My 20 years in Sun Micro.." the previous night in one long sitting. That was heady. This old clunky machine stimulates the unsatisfied electronics engineer in me, whether works or not. My favorite classes were Digital Design and Computer Architecture, both using wonderful books of Morris Mano (photocopies of course) when I was in Istanbul Tech. Baah, the good ole days man... Smilie

Last edited by ozsavran; 11-27-2018 at 08:09 AM..
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# 6  
Old 11-27-2018
Hi,

Just a quick bit of info, the server will only run Solaris up to and including Solaris 10 1/13 - it will not run 11 as the SPARC IIIi processor is not supported by the OS.

It's why my v250's at home are still at Solaris 10.

Regards

Gull04
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# 7  
Old 11-27-2018
Thanks Gull04. Smilie Good to save the time beforehand, and good to know I didn't burn that Solaris 10 for Sparc DVD for nothing. Will stay with that. Expecting an XVR-100 graphics card which has drivers for it built into Solaris 10, right?
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