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# 22  
Old 04-30-2013
thank you

Last edited by ratnalein88; 05-06-2013 at 03:46 AM..
# 23  
Old 04-30-2013
I'm still confused what you are trying to actual do here.

I still think you would be better sourcing your file from you script.

Let me put it like this:-
my_env.ksh
Code:
#!/bin/ksh
a=Hello
b=Robin
c="$a $b"
echo "$c"

my_script.ksh
Code:
#!/bin/ksh
echo "Starting my script."
echo "$c"
. my_env.ksh          # I'm assuming that this is in your $PATH
echo "I have set up the environment within this shell."
echo "My name is $b"
echo "$a world!"

Then I can run
Code:
$ echo $a

$ my_script.ksh
Starting my script.

Hello Robin
I have set up the environment within this shell.
My name is Robin
Hello world!
$

You can see that the values of $a, $b & $c are available to your calling script. They way you have it with eval leaves you open to odd things, such as your echo with quotes. Calling
Code:
eval echo "echo "this is line 1"
                 date"

.... will just confuse things because it will try to match up quote etc. , so you are actually going to execute:-
Code:
echo echo this is line 1"
"

which will work, but is a bit odd. How would you cope with multiple / escaped quotes? Consider odd_file
Code:
echo "This is the 
\"text\"
...I think"

An eval of that might go a bit wild. If you run this on the command line:-
Code:
$ while read line
> do
>    eval $line
> done < odd_file
This is the
ksh[3]: text:  not found
ksh[3]: ...I:  not found

Where you could:-
Code:
$ ksh odd_file
This is the 
"text"
...I think

or
Code:
$ . odd_file 
This is the 
"text"
...I think

Perhaps I am being stupid and not seeing what you have explained. Can you be very direct as to the purpose. I don't mind how terse you make the language, I'm just very confused.


Robin
# 24  
Old 05-01-2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratnalein88
Hallo Don Cragun and everyone,

sorry for the late reply.

Quote:
Why do you need to echo an echo command?
No, actually the second echo(in the file) was just to show me, how different between these 2 code lines:

Code:
eval echo "`cat $var`"

Code:
eval echo "\"`cat $var`\""

You did try to explan it to me, how each of the lines step by step being evaluated and finally executed from shell.
Quote:
What pipe are you talking about?
It was intially about this code line:

Code:
eval "echo \"`cat §{filevar}`\" " >  ${file_var_sql} || die "error comment"

I repeat: What pipe are you talking about? There is no pipe in the above command line. The || indicates that this is an AND-OR list; not a pipeline.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratnalein88
Quote:
What file redirection are you talking about?
in the code line above is the direction to a file, that is what I meant

Quote:
What are you hoping to achieve by evaluating the contents of a file that can't be accomplished by sourcing the file?
I can not source the file, because ${path_var_sql} is a sql script, which will be executed later on.
As some of us have said several times, for what you are doing here, it would be MUCH MUCH simpler if you would use the command:
Code:
. "$filevar" > "$file_var_sql" || die "error comment"

instead of trying to use eval. If you would source the file instead of trying to evaluate it, you would much more easily understand what is going on since there is a single execution of the contents of the file without having to worry about how multiple levels of command substitution and quote removal will be processed.

The output from either . (in the line above) or eval (in your line of code) produce output that can be redirected to a file (in this case named by $file_var_sql) that can can be made to contain commands that can be executed later.

THERE IS NO NEED TO USE EVAL IN THIS CASE. USING EVAL IN THIS CASE JUST MAKES YOUR CODE HARDER TO READ and HARDER TO UNDERSTAND.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratnalein88
Quote:
What are you trying to do?
Actually I am trying to understand how eval works. But it seems so complicated for me to understand the difference between the 2 code lines above. You suggested me to set -xv, I have done that, but I still havent understood it

Let me resume the problem, assuming that the file contains 2 lines:

echo "this is line 1"
date

Code:
eval echo "`cat ${file}`"
eval echo "echo "this is line 1"
                 date"

I assume, after this, the line will still be evaluated, right? Then it would be:
Code:
eval echo "this is line 1
                30-04-2013"

After this, shell executed the above echo command, so that the output:

Code:
this is line 1
30-04-2013

I hope this is correct.
I guess I am a poor teacher. I don't see how repeating what I said in numerous other posts in this thread that show you step by step the process the shell goes through to produce exactly the output that you see when you run both of these commands is going to help. You don't need eval for this and your fixation on eval rather than using simpler equivalent tools (. in this case) for this project doesn't make sense.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratnalein88
My problem is this variant:
eval echo "\"`cat ${file}`\""

Code:
eval echo " "echo "this is line 1"
                   date""

What happens after this?
No. You won't have an eval in the intermediate results of running eval. Smilie

I'm sorry I have been unable to explain this to you. If the step by step analysis of the process the shell goes through to process these commands in messages #14, #16, and #21 in this thread isn't clear, I don't know how to help.

Sorry,
Don
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratnalein88

Thank you for the helps.

Regards,

Ratna
# 25  
Old 05-01-2013
Quote:
THERE IS NO NEED TO USE EVAL IN THIS CASE.
USING EVAL IN THIS CASE JUST MAKES YOUR CODE
HARDER TO READ and HARDER TO UNDERSTAND.
In other words, don't use eval here. Smilie
Quote:
Actually I am trying to understand how eval works.
It is used to build up and run command lines, and to simulate pointer variables. First the shell scans the line and passes it to eval. Then eval executes the line, including scanning the line again. That's how it works.

I've written many shell scripts, have rarely or never had to use eval. I would focus on other things more useful, less confusing. Smilie
# 26  
Old 05-02-2013
thank you

Last edited by ratnalein88; 05-06-2013 at 03:46 AM..
# 27  
Old 05-02-2013
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratnalein88
Hallo gentlemen,

I hope you guys not mad with me Smilie
I am sorry, if my thread is lacking of quality Smilie
Next time, I will try to ask only questions with high quality.

Regarding the question, why I am not sourcing the file:
Actually. the file is a sql-file, so I keep this sql-file "outside" and will just run the sql-file from the shell-script. Maybe it is possible to source a sql-file, but the fact is, my sql-file is not concepted to be run "inside" the shell-script
This is probably the main bone of contention here. Depriving us of this information had us building solutions that wouldn't ever work for you because of incomplete information. "But I need eval!" "No you don't, try this!" "It didn't work, see I need eval!" "What didn't work? What did it do?" "How do I use eval?"

Show us the data and we'll get it straightened out much faster.
Quote:
Regarding the question, why I need eval:
I really need eval, because in the sql-script, there are some shell-variables, which have to be evaluated first, because my database management doenst do that for me Smilie
That still doesn't necessarily mean you need eval. There's ways without eval to set arbitrary variable names, if you even need that.

Show the contents of this sql file please (with anything confidential blanked).
# 28  
Old 05-02-2013
Well, you do seem to have your reasons for wanting to eval rather than to source the script. I don't think we will "get mad", more just very confused at what you are trying to achieve. Perhaps it is us that is not understanding. Can you paste in a small section of your file that you want eval to work on? Try to keep it to the smallest unit of work. Leave out anything sensitive but make it obvious when you do so.

For the calling script, it would be best to keep that very small too, so we can focus on a specific issue, rather than a big script.

If it is something like:-

My script is:-
eval "`cat my_deck.sql
Code:
sqlplus -S ${username}/${password}@${ora-SID} @my_deck.sql

.... or
Code:
sqlplus / <<-EOSQL
select * from user_tables;
EOSQL

.... then you can still source that in. Perhaps if we see what you really want to execute, then perhaps we will better understand and not wonder why you don't source it in.


I'm sure there are things I will not have considered Smilie so I too am happy to learn. Smilie




Robin
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