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unfortuantly stat is not among the list of commands i have to use

you didn't learn about scripts?!

scripts are basically files that sequentially run the commands in the file as if you typed them yourself, so simple put the code that wwwzviadi placed in a file,...

thanks all, this is exactly what i needed, thanks for the help=-)

edit: sorry to keep asking, but is their any way to retireve file permissions through echo as well?

is their any way to retrieve the directory listing with cat?, i'm telneted into my home router flashed with dd-wrt and the very basic command ls isn't their, i have cd, cat, and several other basics...

awk?, i've never heard of this command, however it gets the job done, i'll look into it more, thanks for the help

lol, it's ok, at least you understand what i mean now, sorry for not being clear in what i was trying to accomplish

ahh, didn't know that(i was taught piping in from cat, thanks)

however with the first grep -v -A 1 'figure' test, the output is the same as the input, making the second grep act the same inversing...

you mean like do:

cat test|grep -v 'figure'|grep -v 'hopefully' ?

that works on the small scale like here, but the end goal has 11 lines in front of, and 17 lines behind, and i only know of 1...

ok, i see thanks very much for your answer, this helps me understand what is going on, is their any way to achieve the output i desired with just grep or would i have to pipe it into other functions...

hello everyone, i'm taking a class on unix and linux, and have come across a problem that my teacher couldn't figure out either:

the testing file i'm using:

This is a test of grep
to see how...