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thank you. I will try that when I get home from work.

at work, I'm a UNIX administrator, but at home I use openSUSE 11. One of the commands that I use to assist me in trouble shooting A LOT is called ptree process tree. does anyone know of a ptree...

from what I read, ajilesh is wanting to see what the permissions are in a non-volatile way. I don't know how you do this in csh, but in ksh you can do this:

if [[ -x /usr/lib/sendmail ]] ...