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Old 03-10-2009
All the Tuxedo domains are not running right now. Earlier today I loaded up six of them and all of swap was being used and no more would start. The boss told me to add more swap so we can run 10 instances. At that time I explained swap was probably already too high. I wanted to verify I was not stating something that was not true. The boss mentioned about not caring about nanoseconds of performance. Thanks so much for all the feedback.
# 9  
Old 03-10-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by scotbuff
The boss mentioned about not caring about nanoseconds of performance.
I assume your boss was joking. Swap can ad many milliseconds, not nanoseconds. In addition, thrashing due to swap can add seconds or more.

I recommend clustering:

Tuxedo Clustering


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The heart of the Tuxedo system is the Bulletin Board (BB). This is a shared memory segment that contains the state of a Tuxedo domain. Servers, services, transactions, and clients are all registered in the BB providing a global view of their state across the machines within a domain. To coordinate updates to the BB a process called the Bulletin Board Liaison (BBL) runs on each machine to keep the local copy of the BB up-to-date. A master machine runs a process called the “Distinguished Bulletin Board Liaison” that coordinates the updates to the BB. This allows each machine to have a view of what servers, services, transactions, and clients are on each machine within the domain.

Another process on each machine called the Bridge is responsible for passing requests from one machine to another. This allows Tuxedo to spread load across the various machines within a domain and allows servers and services to be running on multiple machines. In addition the BBL and Bridge monitor each other and restart the other should one fail. In the advent of a failure of the master machine, another machine designated as a backup master can take over the function of master machine. Also, since machines within a single domain can be of different architectures (x86, IA32, SPARC, P-Series, etc.), the Bridge is also responsible for handling differences in things like endianness.
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Old 03-10-2009
Thanks guys for taking the time to provide the feedback and Clustering information. I really do appreciate it and I will look into the Clustering and see if I can improve the environment. Thanks again.
# 11  
Old 03-11-2009
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Neo:In addition, thrashing due to swap can add seconds or more.
Ive seen by minutes when it comes to sync GB...

Be sure swapmem_on is set to 0
Reduce your buffer cache since you are on SAN
If you are using VXSF of at fine tuning the latter...
But of course all this will not improve like adding an extra 16GB RAM...
# 12  
Old 03-11-2009
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Originally Posted by vbe
Be sure swapmem_on is set to 0
Why 0? I would have suggested 1.

Anyway, this page says that swapmem_on is now ignored and the kernel will act as if it's on.
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