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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? unix employment Post 59098 by rhfrommn on Thursday 9th of December 2004 04:27:12 PM
Old 12-09-2004
Short answer - No.

Details -

A Solaris sysadmin job is generally going to require some real experience in I.T. where at least part of the time you were working on Unix systems. For example, as a helpdesk or tech support person in a mixed environment with some Unix, or an operator with duties that included Unix systems. Just self-teaching as you describe won't cut it with most employers looking for a sysadmin. The basic thing is a Solaris admin is not an entry level job . . . .

However, the fact that you are learning Unix is pretty impressive and would give you an advantage trying to get one of those entry level jobs. I would suggest you shoot for one of those support or ops positions and after a year or two of experience then go for a sysadmin job.

The one possible exception is if you found a very large site with many (I'm thinking 10-15+) sysadmins hundreds of machines. A place like that probably would hire some junior Unix admins to do the crappy day to day work that the more senior ones don't have time for. Password updates, creating users, home directory quotas - real basic stuff like that. A position like that would be awesome to get experience from, but most smaller shops don't have the need or money to hire very junior people just to do those things.

As an example - I work for a division of a big company. In my group there are 8 Unix admins. Somebody without at least a couple years experience can't even get an interview to be an admin on our team. I have been an admin over 5 years and I'm actually the 2nd most junior guy here. But the corporate IT group (which is much larger) does employ people to be account admins and level 1 helpdesk type jobs where they work on Unix systems and can get that experience. If you were going to apply for my company you'd have no chance with my group, but might land a job with the corporate IT department in one of their junior spots.

Of course, all of the above is just my opinion. Hopefully others will give theirs so you get a more balanced response to think about.

One last point - studying any type of bsd isn't too good for learning Solaris. Sun quit using lots of bsd and went almost completely sys V when they switched to Solaris (from SunOS) back in the mid 90's. I'd suggest downloading Solaris x86 and finding some old PC to run it on for learning purposes.
 

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atrm(1) 						      General Commands Manual							   atrm(1)

NAME
atrm - Removes jobs spooled by at SYNOPSIS
atrm [-a] [-f | -i] [job_number...] | [user...] The atrm command removes jobs that were created with the at command. OPTIONS
Removes all jobs belonging to the person invoking atrm. If invoked by a privileged user, all jobs on the queue are removed. Suppresses the printing of all information about the jobs being removed. Prompts before a job is removed; a response of y, or the locale's equivalent of y, causes the job to be removed. Obsolete version of -a. DESCRIPTION
If one or more job numbers is specified, atrm attempts to remove only those jobs. If one or more usernames is specified, all jobs belonging to those users are removed. This form of invoking atrm is useful only if you have superuser authority. EXAMPLES
To remove job number 62169200.a, created by user chinn, from the queue created by the at command, enter: atrm chinn.62169200.a Note that specifies an at job for sh. (.f specifies an at job for csh, and specifies an at job for ksh.) FILES
Main cron directory. List of allowed users. List of denied users. Spool area. Queue description file for at, batch, and cron. SEE ALSO
Commands: at(1), atq(1), cron(8) Files: queuedefs(4) atrm(1)
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