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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? unix employment Post 59098 by rhfrommn on Thursday 9th of December 2004 04:27:12 PM
Old 12-09-2004
Short answer - No.

Details -

A Solaris sysadmin job is generally going to require some real experience in I.T. where at least part of the time you were working on Unix systems. For example, as a helpdesk or tech support person in a mixed environment with some Unix, or an operator with duties that included Unix systems. Just self-teaching as you describe won't cut it with most employers looking for a sysadmin. The basic thing is a Solaris admin is not an entry level job . . . .

However, the fact that you are learning Unix is pretty impressive and would give you an advantage trying to get one of those entry level jobs. I would suggest you shoot for one of those support or ops positions and after a year or two of experience then go for a sysadmin job.

The one possible exception is if you found a very large site with many (I'm thinking 10-15+) sysadmins hundreds of machines. A place like that probably would hire some junior Unix admins to do the crappy day to day work that the more senior ones don't have time for. Password updates, creating users, home directory quotas - real basic stuff like that. A position like that would be awesome to get experience from, but most smaller shops don't have the need or money to hire very junior people just to do those things.

As an example - I work for a division of a big company. In my group there are 8 Unix admins. Somebody without at least a couple years experience can't even get an interview to be an admin on our team. I have been an admin over 5 years and I'm actually the 2nd most junior guy here. But the corporate IT group (which is much larger) does employ people to be account admins and level 1 helpdesk type jobs where they work on Unix systems and can get that experience. If you were going to apply for my company you'd have no chance with my group, but might land a job with the corporate IT department in one of their junior spots.

Of course, all of the above is just my opinion. Hopefully others will give theirs so you get a more balanced response to think about.

One last point - studying any type of bsd isn't too good for learning Solaris. Sun quit using lots of bsd and went almost completely sys V when they switched to Solaris (from SunOS) back in the mid 90's. I'd suggest downloading Solaris x86 and finding some old PC to run it on for learning purposes.
 

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MESG(1)                                                            User Commands                                                           MESG(1)

NAME
mesg - display (or do not display) messages from other users SYNOPSIS
mesg [option] [n|y] DESCRIPTION
The mesg utility is invoked by a user to control write access others have to the terminal device associated with standard error output. If write access is allowed, then programs such as talk(1) and write(1) may display messages on the terminal. Traditionally, write access is allowed by default. However, as users become more conscious of various security risks, there is a trend to remove write access by default, at least for the primary login shell. To make sure your ttys are set the way you want them to be set, mesg should be executed in your login scripts. ARGUMENTS
n Disallow messages. y Allow messages to be displayed. If no arguments are given, mesg shows the current message status on standard error output. OPTIONS
-v, --verbose Explain what is being done. -V, --version Display version information and exit. -h, --help Display help text and exit. EXIT STATUS
The mesg utility exits with one of the following values: 0 Messages are allowed. 1 Messages are not allowed. >1 An error has occurred. FILES
/dev/[pt]ty[pq]? SEE ALSO
login(1), talk(1), write(1), wall(1), xterm(1) HISTORY
A mesg command appeared in Version 6 AT&T UNIX. AVAILABILITY
The mesg command is part of the util-linux package and is available from https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/. util-linux July 2014 MESG(1)
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