I agree with your points about lazy people and what the moderators have to put up with as being very valid. Your not paid and it requires a lot of patience. In addition the time you do put into the forum could be spent doing just about anything else.

A lot of us in the I.T. business today find ourselves thrust into positions where we have little background, we're offered no training, not enough time in the day to take care of the servers we're already responsible for, and yet your expected to become the instant expert. We do search the forums, or google to find answers to problems we face. We are willing to read the documents or do the research. What we need for the most part is for someone who knows, to simply put our feet on the right path so we can walk down it. The man pages for example. And, at times we also need the quick fix. The boss is standing behind you and wants an answer and you don't have a clue as to where to start looking. So you post up in the forums and hope that someone has mercy and shares with you, either the answer, or at least the path. Anyway thanks for the tip on the core files, it's much appreciated.

I find myself in this position, my /var/adm/messages file says that "sshd: fatal: local: This server does not support your new ssh version." I know ssh stands for secure shell, I know my sshd daemon is running, it's suppose to be more secure than telnet, because telnet uses clear text. I know I'm running an early version of ssh that should be updated. I look on Cert's site and see that even the latest version of ssh still has holes in it that can be exploited. I know that hackers scan forums such as this one, for messages from people like me, so they can find potential victims. My boss wants to know have we been hacked, who's trying to use this version of ssh. Isn't there a log file you can search that will tell you when someone has logged into the system. My thoughts, gee, if they're smart enough to hack into the system, hack the root password, then they're smart enough to cover up their tracks. Maybe some training is in order here, if you want the answer to that question. Maybe we should be installing Tripwire or something like it to help monitor the system. Opps out of the question, the budget don't have dollars for training or Tripwire. Your so right when you say on some days it's not even worth showing up.