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Old 09-11-2003
I'm lost here, I'm not sure which goofy thing you want to do. If you want to create a session that doesn't show up in who or w, then yes, xterm is an answer. And xterm is a program. You need to run xterm with the -ut option which may be your default. Or you can use +ut to ensure that you do show up in who or w. Fair warning, it is fairly easy to produce a list of such sessions and there is no way to hide your processes from ps.

The idea of this option is that you should have one window that does show up in who/w. That window would be used for talk, etc. But as you open secondary windows, you should inhibit the utmp entry to avoid cluttering up the who/w output.

Leaving a dangling utmp entry is harder, you have to kill the program that would have cleanup it up. That requires root.

Now, how can it be that you saw a pid, but you didn't know the user? Let's try an example... I can get a list of all users on the box who use bash with:
ps -ef | grep " -bash"
One of the lines is
joeblow **** 30014 30013 ** 0 12:27 pts/1 *** **** 00:00:00 -bash

In this case "joeblow" is the user. 30014 is the pid of his shell (pid). 30013 is the pid of the parent of his shell (ppid).
 

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pid(n)                                                         Tcl Built-In Commands                                                        pid(n)

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NAME
pid - Retrieve process identifiers SYNOPSIS
pid ?fileId? _________________________________________________________________ DESCRIPTION
If the fileId argument is given then it should normally refer to a process pipeline created with the open command. In this case the pid command will return a list whose elements are the process identifiers of all the processes in the pipeline, in order. The list will be empty if fileId refers to an open file that is not a process pipeline. If no fileId argument is given then pid returns the process identi- fier of the current process. All process identifiers are returned as decimal strings. EXAMPLE
Print process information about the processes in a pipeline using the SysV ps program before reading the output of that pipeline: set pipeline [open "| zcat somefile.gz | grep foobar | sort -u"] # Print process information exec ps -fp [pid $pipeline] >@stdout # Print a separator and then the output of the pipeline puts [string repeat - 70] puts [read $pipeline] close $pipeline SEE ALSO
exec(n), open(n) KEYWORDS
file, pipeline, process identifier Tcl 7.0 pid(n)
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