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Special Forums Cybersecurity setting ACL's Post 3926 by Neo on Friday 13th of July 2001 05:10:12 PM
Old 07-13-2001
Andy asks:

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is it possible to have a user x create a file, which will have the ownership and group rights of the directory it is created in ?
Yes, one way to do it is to write a small script (command) that reads the current directory; gets the owner and group information of a file that is an argument to the script. The script may have to be set SUID with ownership root. This is not very secure, but you asked 'is it possible?' The more complex the security requirements, the more involved.

You might also do it any other number of ways, using ACL front ends, perl scripts, a simple C program, etc.

The easiest way to do it, if you are worried about security is to have the administrator with root privs do it Smilie

Or, you can find some complex ACL program; but based on what you have offered as your requirements, this still seems to be a lot of trouble for something quite basic.

If I had a system that had a user or user process creating files I would not want the scripts to have any ability to write or give ownership to the file to another user unless the user was in the same group. If the issue was with many files, I would look at creating a process to do this.

However, without understanding the purpose of the server, the nature of the processes, the relationship of users to the processes, the production environment and security implications and risk; it is not reasonable to give a simplistic answer.

Everything is possible in UNIX and there is no one way to do anything Smilie
 

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CHOWN(8)						    BSD System Manager's Manual 						  CHOWN(8)

NAME
chown -- change file owner and group SYNOPSIS
chown [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] owner[:group] file ... chown [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] :group file ... DESCRIPTION
The chown utility changes the user ID and/or the group ID of the specified files. Symbolic links named by arguments are silently left unchanged unless -h is used. The options are as follows: -f Don't report any failure to change file owner or group, nor modify the exit status to reflect such failures. -H If the -R option is specified, symbolic links on the command line are followed. (Symbolic links encountered in the tree traversal are not followed.) -h If the file is a symbolic link, change the user ID and/or the group ID of the link itself. -L If the -R option is specified, all symbolic links are followed. -P If the -R option is specified, no symbolic links are followed. Instead, the user and/or group ID of the link itself are modified. This is the default. Use -h to change the user ID and/or the group of symbolic links. -R Change the user ID and/or the group ID for the file hierarchies rooted in the files instead of just the files themselves. -v Cause chown to be verbose, showing files as the owner is modified. The -H, -L and -P options are ignored unless the -R option is specified. In addition, these options override each other and the command's actions are determined by the last one specified. The owner and group operands are both optional; however, at least one must be specified. If the group operand is specified, it must be pre- ceded by a colon (``:'') character. The owner may be either a numeric user ID or a user name. If a user name is also a numeric user ID, the operand is used as a user name. The group may be either a numeric group ID or a group name. If a group name is also a numeric group ID, the operand is used as a group name. For obvious security reasons, the ownership of a file may only be altered by a super-user. Similarly, only a member of a group can change a file's group ID to that group. DIAGNOSTICS
The chown utility exits 0 on success, and >0 if an error occurs. COMPATIBILITY
Previous versions of the chown utility used the dot (``.'') character to distinguish the group name. This has been changed to be a colon (``:'') character, so that user and group names may contain the dot character. On previous versions of this system, symbolic links did not have owners. The -v option is non-standard and its use in scripts is not recommended. LEGACY DESCRIPTION
In legacy mode, the -R and -RP options do not change the user ID or the group ID of symbolic links. SEE ALSO
chgrp(1), find(1), chown(2), fts(3), compat(5), symlink(7) STANDARDS
The chown utility is expected to be IEEE Std 1003.2 (``POSIX.2'') compliant. HISTORY
A chown utility appeared in Version 1 AT&T UNIX. BSD
March 31, 1994 BSD
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