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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? Under Consideration: Migrate the Forums to Discourse Post 303044989 by Neo on Tuesday 10th of March 2020 08:58:18 AM
Old 03-10-2020
Still moving along:

Code:
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The only "cautionary" comment I have so far is that of the two people on the "discourse side of the house" I have interacted with so far, both "had their hands out" looking to make money off this migration. One guy was a hired gun "migration expert" who wanted money to help me and the other person was in the discourse forums, the other was a discourse server provider.

This jives with some of the posts I have read which stated that discourse was free and the developers and other make a lot of money on associated hosting and services.

That's a lot different than the Node-RED community I have been interacting with where both Node-RED is free and the community is a robust, friendly group of "makers" all showing off their skills and talents and sometimes over-projecting their skills to attract attention; but they are truly helpful to all, especially noobs.

Discourse, on the other hand, seems to want to steer noobs to paid services.

That is not a big negative; as everyone has a right to make a living; and I heard the owners of Discourse make a fortune.
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This document aims to provide an overview of the vast perl community, which is far too large and diverse to provide a detailed listing. If any specific niche has been forgotten, it is not meant as an insult but an omission for the sake of brevity. The Perl community is as diverse as Perl, and there is a large amount of evidence that the Perl users apply TMTOWTDI to all endeavors, not just programming. From websites, to IRC, to mailing lists, there is more than one way to get involved in the community. Where to Find the Community There is a central directory for the Perl community: <http://perl.org> maintained by the Perl Foundation (<http://www.perlfoundation.org/>), which tracks and provides services for a variety of other community sites. Mailing Lists and Newsgroups Perl runs on e-mail; there is no doubt about it. The Camel book was originally written mostly over e-mail and today Perl's development is co-ordinated through mailing lists. The largest repository of Perl mailing lists is located at <http://lists.perl.org>. Most Perl-related projects set up mailing lists for both users and contributors. If you don't see a certain project listed at <http://lists.perl.org>, check the particular website for that project. Most mailing lists are archived at <http://nntp.perl.org/>. There are also plenty of Perl related newsgroups located under "comp.lang.perl.*". IRC The Perl community has a rather large IRC presence. For starters, it has its own IRC network, <irc://irc.perl.org>. General (not help- oriented) chat can be found at <irc://irc.perl.org/#perl>. Many other more specific chats are also hosted on the network. Information about irc.perl.org is located on the network's website: <http://www.irc.perl.org>. For a more help-oriented #perl, check out <irc://irc.freenode.net/#perl>. Perl 6 development also has a presence in <irc://irc.freenode.net/#perl6>. Most Perl-related channels will be kind enough to point you in the right direction if you ask nicely. Any large IRC network (Dalnet, EFnet) is also likely to have a #perl channel, with varying activity levels. Websites Perl websites come in a variety of forms, but they fit into two large categories: forums and news websites. There are many Perl-related websites, so only a few of the community's largest are mentioned here. News sites <http://perl.com/> Run by O'Reilly Media (the publisher of the Camel Book, among other Perl-related literature), perl.com provides current Perl news, articles, and resources for Perl developers as well as a directory of other useful websites. <http://blogs.perl.org/> Many members of the community have a Perl-related blog on this site. If you'd like to join them, you can sign up for free. <http://use.perl.org/> use Perl; used to provide a slashdot-style news/blog website covering all things Perl, from minutes of the meetings of the Perl 6 Design team to conference announcements with (ir)relevant discussion. It no longer accepts updates, but you can still use the site to read old entries and comments. Forums <http://www.perlmonks.org/> PerlMonks is one of the largest Perl forums, and describes itself as "A place for individuals to polish, improve, and showcase their Perl skills." and "A community which allows everyone to grow and learn from each other." <http://stackoverflow.com/> Stack Overflow is a free question-and-answer site for programmers. It's not focussed solely on Perl, but it does have an active group of users who do their best to help people with their Perl programming questions. User Groups Many cities around the world have local Perl Mongers chapters. A Perl Mongers chapter is a local user group which typically holds regular in-person meetings, both social and technical; helps organize local conferences, workshops, and hackathons; and provides a mailing list or other continual contact method for its members to keep in touch. To find your local Perl Mongers (or PM as they're commonly abbreviated) group check the international Perl Mongers directory at <http://www.pm.org/>. Workshops Perl workshops are, as the name might suggest, workshops where Perl is taught in a variety of ways. At the workshops, subjects range from a beginner's introduction (such as the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop's "Zero To Perl") to much more advanced subjects. There are several great resources for locating workshops: the websites mentioned above, the calendar mentioned below, and the YAPC Europe website, <http://www.yapceurope.org/>, which is probably the best resource for European Perl events. 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