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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? A terrific quote: Post 303042466 by wisecracker on Thursday 26th of December 2019 04:29:34 AM
Old 12-26-2019
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Originally Posted by zxmaus
I pass on this one. My brain is not made for programming. Though I think I can handle pretty much everything else pretty well, and I am now nearing 34 years working in various fields in IT, I just pass on scripting on everything longer than a very long one-liner. Not for lack of trying. I do understand scripts in various scripting languages well enough to debug them, to adjust them to my needs and to expand them if necessary. But I could not write one on my own if my life depends on it. Does this make me dumb? Smilie
No it doesn't make you dumb, it means you have not found your niche to create an "_app'_" to take on and maybe even excel at compared to your peers.
It also means that you probably have much more activity in other fields in your private life which would make you think a lot.

I found mine in the late 90s:
My programming niche...

This started me on the road to my multi language learning.
I hadn't ever seen a shell script until joining this site in January 2013 so I jumped in at the deep end bragging with an AudioScope.sh, a SINGLE "bash" script which has, and is, still being gently followed.
I deliberately placed limits on it and the biggest one was the I/O. ONLY the mic and ear are allowed for input and output. USB, Parallel, Serial and others are NOT allowed.
These had to deliver DC as well as AC components on input and output. I got a tremendous amount of help from the big guns on here and from these beginnings I have done some really strange things and most are POSIX compliant:
A DFT in a PURE ksh93 shell script.
A GOTO function.
A Fixed Point SQRT using integer maths.
And much more, all on this site. Most have been bettered by my peers who still know much more than I do about UNIX scripting.
Why?
As a pure learning task to see if it is possible and nothing more.
I am working on a POSIX compliant DFT using integer arithmetic ATM and it is seriously tough. I don't expect it to work but I do have a natural ability to think laterally/orthogonally hence my bizarre uploads to this site.
So GO FOR IT, even if it is something like a CrossStitch Program or calculating the minimum area for a _mains_ cable carrying large current loads.
You would be surprised what you learn by taking on such a task.
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SHELL-QUOTE(1)						User Contributed Perl Documentation					    SHELL-QUOTE(1)

NAME
shell-quote - quote arguments for safe use, unmodified in a shell command SYNOPSIS
shell-quote [switch]... arg... DESCRIPTION
shell-quote lets you pass arbitrary strings through the shell so that they won't be changed by the shell. This lets you process commands or files with embedded white space or shell globbing characters safely. Here are a few examples. EXAMPLES
ssh preserving args When running a remote command with ssh, ssh doesn't preserve the separate arguments it receives. It just joins them with spaces and passes them to "$SHELL -c". This doesn't work as intended: ssh host touch 'hi there' # fails It creates 2 files, hi and there. Instead, do this: cmd=`shell-quote touch 'hi there'` ssh host "$cmd" This gives you just 1 file, hi there. process find output It's not ordinarily possible to process an arbitrary list of files output by find with a shell script. Anything you put in $IFS to split up the output could legitimately be in a file's name. Here's how you can do it using shell-quote: eval set -- `find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 shell-quote --` debug shell scripts shell-quote is better than echo for debugging shell scripts. debug() { [ -z "$debug" ] || shell-quote "debug:" "$@" } With echo you can't tell the difference between "debug 'foo bar'" and "debug foo bar", but with shell-quote you can. save a command for later shell-quote can be used to build up a shell command to run later. Say you want the user to be able to give you switches for a command you're going to run. If you don't want the switches to be re-evaluated by the shell (which is usually a good idea, else there are things the user can't pass through), you can do something like this: user_switches= while [ $# != 0 ] do case x$1 in x--pass-through) [ $# -gt 1 ] || die "need an argument for $1" user_switches="$user_switches "`shell-quote -- "$2"` shift;; # process other switches esac shift done # later eval "shell-quote some-command $user_switches my args" OPTIONS
--debug Turn debugging on. --help Show the usage message and die. --version Show the version number and exit. AVAILABILITY
The code is licensed under the GNU GPL. Check http://www.argon.org/~roderick/ or CPAN for updated versions. AUTHOR
Roderick Schertler <roderick@argon.org> perl v5.16.3 2010-06-11 SHELL-QUOTE(1)
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