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Operating Systems Solaris "synchronisation lost" errors for Solaris NTP server Post 303042092 by Neo on Friday 13th of December 2019 11:36:03 PM
Old 12-14-2019
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlliagre
NTP might be the least of the security issues here.

Running such an outdated and unpatched version of Solaris (17 years old!) in production is quite unreasonable. There are certainly hundreds of major vulnerabilities on that server. Moreover, assuming a firewall is protecting the server and NTP is the only visible service, you might have issues compiling a recent version of chrony for Solaris 9 anyway.
Well stated.

Let me be more to the point.

It is a total waste of time to be replying to anyone who is running a 17 year old OS (with a seriously flawed and out-of-date version of NTP), which could be replaced in a day for free with a modern OS (more secure, more reliable, not seriously flawed, and do a much better job for a NTP application).

The original poster is wasting our time, showing a lack of concern for our time, to ask us to sort out a problem on a 17 year old operating system (and not telling us before hand the version(s) they are running), which could be replaced by any "normal" system admin in less than a hour (for free, and do a better and more reliable job).

This is why I wish everyone here at unix.com would slow down (including myself at times) and stop answering questions from posters until the posters first describe the operation system, version numbers, etc. Some here are good at this, some of us are good at this sometimes and then forgot to ask, others seem to like to bypass the "understanding" phase and just post answers without any concern for the user's OS, versions, etc.

Everyone here (including me sometimes, but not often) needs to slow down and ask people who post questions to describe the OS, version, etc. before providing "quick" answers to questions. Jumping to "answers" before having the "right understanding" is not teaching people how to solve problems, it is contributing to the problem (in my view).

Perhaps I need to change the forum rules and make this a posting requirement in 2020?

Editorial Comment:

As a side note, the reason that most computers are hacked with ransomware or other easily acquired malware (easily purchased on the dark web) is that they are running unpatched, antiquated systems and obsolete code. Every system admin, organization and company must keep their computer operating systems up-to-date, fully patched and upgraded to the latest versions. This is very basic. Do not run vulnerable, obsolete code and antiquated operating systems. Update your operation systems, update your apps, make and maintain backups (onsite and offsite). Manage your IT systems, please.
 

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ntpdate(8)						      System Manager's Manual							ntpdate(8)

NAME
ntpdate - set the date and time via NTP (Network Time Protocol) SYNOPSIS
/usr/sbin/ntpdate [-bdqsuv] [-a key#] [-e authdelay] [-k keyfile] [-o version] [-p samples] [-t timeout] server1 server2 server3... OPTIONS
Tells ntpdate to step the system time immediately to match NTP. Use this option only when booting the system. Prints configuration and debugging information. Queries the server(s) and prints the information received; the date and time are not set. Tells ntpdate to log its actions through the syslog(3) facility rather than to the standard output. This is useful when running the program from cron(8). Tells ntpdate to use an unprivileged port to send the packets from. This is useful when you are behind a firewall that blocks incoming traffic to privileged ports, and you want to synchronise with hosts beyond the firewall. Note that the -d option always uses unprivileged ports. Runs in verbose mode. Specifies that all packets should be authenticated using the key number provided. Specifies an authentication processing delay, in seconds (see xntpd(8) for details). This number is usually small enough to be negligible for ntpdate's purposes, though specify- ing a value may improve timekeeping on very slow CPU's. Specifies that authentication keys will be read from keyfile instead of the default /etc/ntp.keys file. This file should be in the format described in xntpd(8). Forces ntpdate to poll as a version implementation. By default ntpdate claims to be an NTP version 3 implementation in its outgoing packets. Some older software will decline to respond to version 3 queries. Acquires a specified number of samples from each server. The range of values for samples is from 1 and 8, inclusive. The default is 4. Waits timeout seconds for a response. Any value entered will be rounded to a multiple of 0.2 seconds. The default is 1 second, a value suitable for polling across a LAN. DESCRIPTION
The ntpdate command sets the local date and time by polling the Network Time Protocol server(s) on the host(s) given as arguments to deter- mine the correct time. It must be run as root on the local host. A number of samples are obtained from each of the servers specified and the standard NTP clock filter and selection algorithms are applied to select the best of these. The ntpdate command is run from /sbin/init.d/settime to set the time of day at boot time, if NTP is configured. (See ntpsetup(8) for information on configuring NTP.) Note that ntpdate's reliability and precision will improve dramatically with greater numbers of servers. While a single server may be used, better performance and integrity will be obtained by providing at least three or four servers, if not more. Time adjustments are made by ntpdate in one of the following ways: If ntpdate determines your clock is off by more than 0.5 seconds, it steps the time by calling settimeofday(2). If the error is less than 0.5 seconds, however, it will by default slew the clock's time by a call to adjtime(2) with the offset. The latter technique is less disruptive and more accurate when the offset is small, and works quite well when ntpdate is run by cron every hour or two. The adjustment made in the latter case is actually 50% larger than the measured offset since this will tend to keep a badly drifting clock more accurate (at some expense to stability, though this tradeoff is usually advantageous). Ntpdate will decline to set the date if an NTP server daemon (for example, xntpd(8)) is running on the same host. When running ntpdate on a regular basis from cron(8) as an alternative to running a daemon, doing so once every hour or two will result in precise enough timekeep- ing to avoid stepping the clock. Note Because of significant changes in NTP version 3, you should check all scripts that use the ntpdate command for correct usage and output. ERRORS
A common problem is polling a server using the wrong query version number or wrong authentication key. If either occurs, ntpdate prints the following error message: 18 Apr 10:20:28 ntpdate(1192]: no server suitable for synchronization found At boot time, if NTP is not configured, the ntpdate prints the following message: WARNING: ntpdate cannot succeed, please check your NTP configuration EXAMPLES
The following command line sets the date and time after polling server host1.dec.com as a version 2 implementation: /usr/sbin/ntpdate -o 2 host1.dec.com The following command line sets the date and time after polling server host2.dec.com. All packets are authenticated using authentication key 1. /usr/sbin/ntpdate -a 1 host2.dec.com FILES
Specifies the command path Contains the encryption keys used by ntpdate SEE ALSO
Commands: ntpq(8), xntpd(8), xntpdc(8) Files: ntp.conf(4) ntpdate(8)
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