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Operating Systems AIX Maxuproc parameter and number of processes Post 303033193 by trifo75 on Monday 1st of April 2019 09:35:59 AM
Old 04-01-2019
Thanks for the replies. Well, trying to be more specific.

There is an MQ server running on the host, running ps -ef at any time shows about 90 lines of output. This is quite normal, including the processes belonging to AIX itself, the MQ server and the monitoring scripts (5 maximum at any given moment).

This morning I found that the output of ps -ef shows just the same amount of processes as it usually does. Most of them remain live for an extended period, thus every app that succeeded to connect earlyer, is able to use the service. New connections cannot be created - new connections in this configuration implies new processes to handle a client.

Also I am unable to run any command that is not setuid root.

Now, raising the maxuproc value from 4096 to 5000 seems to solve the problem. Well, there is not a single user in the system trying to run 4000 processes, as I see 90 processes altogether. Why?

Couple of hours later the problem is showing up again the same way. Raising the maxuproc again solves the problem. Well, seems solving. Something is accumulating in the background and I do not see what that might be. So, when I run into this maxuproc problem, and maxuproc is set to 4096, then I would like to see thet something is really 4096. What kind of objects are counted? entries in process table? Threads? Or what else.

Well, I know how to list user parameters .

The relevant parameters of the relevant user are:
Code:
        fsize=2097151
        cpu=-1
        data=262144
        stack=65536
        core=2097151
        rss=65536
        nofiles=2000

Well, yes, maybe I was on a wrong track and the limit was not the number of processes, but some other limit. In this case my question is, why did the raise of maxuproc suppress the problem?

--Trifo

Last edited by jim mcnamara; 04-01-2019 at 10:55 AM..
 

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maxssiz(5)							File Formats Manual							maxssiz(5)

NAME
maxssiz, maxssiz_64bit - maximum size (in bytes) of the stack for any user process VALUES
Default Allowed values DESCRIPTION
User programs on HP-UX systems are composed of five discrete segments of virtual memory: text (or code), data, stack, shared, and I/O. Each segment occupies an architecturally defined range of the virtual address space which sets the upper limit to their size. However, text, data, and stack segments may have a smaller maximum enforced via the and tunables. and define the maximum size of the stack segment for 32-bit and 64-bit processes. The stack segment contains the actual program stack and the storage space for registers on a process or thread context switch. Who is Expected to Change This Tunable? Anyone. Restrictions on Changing Changes to this tunable take effect only for processes started after the modification. In addition, a process which modifies its for the stack segment propagates the modified limit to all child processes, thereby exempting them from any future modification of The value speci- fied is expected to be a multiple of the base page size. See the description of getconf(1) for more details. If the value specified is not a multiple of the base page size, it will be rounded down to the nearest multiple of the base page size. When Should the Value of This Tunable Be Raised? should be raised if user processes are generating the console error message: Processes generating this error message will likely terminate with the segmentation violation error and dump core. What Are the Side Effects of Raising the Value? Raising this tunable by definition allows larger stack segments for every process. This means that and function as limitations on the amount of swap space that can be reserved or used by each process. Therefore, using more virtual address space does not translate directly to using more physical address space because virtual pages can be swapped out. If swap space on the machine is near capacity, raising this tunable increases the amount of reservable swap per process. This could exhaust the swap space on the system by allowing a process with a memory leak or a malicious program that uses huge amounts of memory to reserve too much swap space. It is also important to realize that for 32 bit user processes, data and stack are located contiguously. Raising the amount of virtual address space reserved for the stack segment implies lowering the amount of virtual address space for the data segment. In other words, raising may cause user processes which use all (or nearly all) of the previously available data area to fail allocation with the error even with set above the current amount of memory allocated for data by this process. On will cause an increase in the kernel data structures used to represent the larger stack space. This may use enough additional swap space that the user may see performance degradation or application failure due to lack of reservable swap space. One method to minimize impact is to use a script which launches the applications needing maximum stack size. Within the script, raise the value of launch the application, and then lower to its previous value. This will allow the specific application to benefit from the increased stack size but will not cause additional stack growth for applications which do not need it. When Should the Value of This Tunable Be Lowered? This tunable should be lowered if swap space is at a premium on the machine and programs that are using too much swap space are affecting the execution of other critical user processes. What Are the Side Effects of Lowering the Value? Lowering this tunable will limit the amount of memory available for stack usage per process. This could cause processes with large stack requirements to terminate with a error. What Other Tunable Values Should Be Changed at the Same Time? The tunable should be considered because it also limits swap usage by process data segment. WARNINGS
All HP-UX kernel tunable parameters are release specific. This parameter may be removed or have its meaning changed in future releases of HP-UX. Installation of optional kernel software, from HP or other vendors, may cause changes to tunable parameter values. After installation, some tunable parameters may no longer be at the default or recommended values. For information about the effects of installation on tun- able values, consult the documentation for the kernel software being installed. For information about optional kernel software that was factory installed on your system, see at AUTHOR
was developed by HP. SEE ALSO
getconf(1), maxdsiz(5), maxtsiz(5). Tunable Kernel Parameters maxssiz(5)
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