Sponsored Content
Operating Systems Solaris Monitoring Paging and Swapping Post 303027385 by javanoob on Friday 14th of December 2018 12:32:59 PM
Old 12-14-2018
Hi Jlliagre,

I am so sorry for that extra "i". Eyes playing tricks on me..and thank you for your reply.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jlliagre
Unless shared memory enter in the game, no it can't.

Virtual space allocated by a process is for its exclusive use. Note again that virtual memory is not the same as physical memory. No particular space is reserved, that's just an amount of space. The OS is free to map this virtual space to whatever physical backend it likes.
Sorry if i am getting confused again..

Virtual swap = ram + disk. (shown in swap -s)
- I understand that memory reservation on virtual swap does not actually consume physical space
- From the previous thread, i understood that reserved virtual swap can be use for actual swapping/paging

But you mentioned that virtual space allocated by a process is for its exclusive use.. --> is reserved = allocated ?
I am actually referring to if virtual swap being reserved by a processA can still has the underlying unused physical ram/disk swap used by another ProcessB right ?

E.g.

T1) Process A reserved 5G of virtual swap using malloc ( (i) 3G from swap disk and (ii) 2G from ram ) -> again at this point, nothing is being physically allocated or used (ram and swap still shown as free in vmstat and swap -l)
T2) Existing Process B needs to read data into the physical RAM (page fault) -> it is actually able to put this piece of data into the (ii) 2G physical ram reserved by Process A - since the reservation is just done virtual swap
T3) OS also see the needs to page some data out of the physical ram -> it is also able to page out this data in ram out onto the (i)3G disk swapright ?
However, if a physical ram is already used/allocated to processA, no other process can use it.

Is my understanding correct ?

Regards,
Noob
 

10 More Discussions You Might Find Interesting

1. UNIX for Advanced & Expert Users

Excessive Paging&Swapping!

Hi all! Working on Oracle v8i/9i on Unix Sun Solaris v8.0. I am experiencing excessive paging & Swapping.Would like to know the cause. I guess:could be due to inappropriate setting of Unix Kernel Parameters... Please correct me if I am wrong! Thanks&Regards, Amit. (5 Replies)
Discussion started by: Amitstora
5 Replies

2. Filesystems, Disks and Memory

Paging and Swapping

Hi Guys: Would like to know how to check system swapping and paging and some theory on how they function. I am an oracle dba and my environment is 8171 on AIX 433. We have a 1GB of RAM on the box and I am educating myself to see how much more SGA can be accommodated on the box and what are the... (2 Replies)
Discussion started by: ST2000
2 Replies

3. UNIX for Dummies Questions & Answers

how to get swapping info

Hi How can I determine if swapping is occuring on a server. Thanks, Leo (2 Replies)
Discussion started by: leo
2 Replies

4. SuSE

Swapping

Hello! Why does my SuSE GNU/Linux machine swap? I have a Gig of ram, currently 14MBs of free RAM, 724MB - buffers and caches... That is 685MB of cached RAM, then kernel really should'nt have to swap, It should release cached memory in my thinkin... It has only swaped 3MB's but still,... (3 Replies)
Discussion started by: Esaia
3 Replies

5. UNIX for Advanced & Expert Users

virtual memory management, swapping paging

can anybody explain me the concepts virtual memory mangement, swapping and paging? although i roughly know what they are , i need more solid distinction between them, and also i want to figure out the relations between them? do you have any well-defined definitons for this concepts? (2 Replies)
Discussion started by: gfhgfnhhn
2 Replies

6. UNIX for Dummies Questions & Answers

Swapping in VI editor

Hi, I am attempting to replace several similar words with another word in vi. Here is what I have written for the script: 3dTcat -prefix SuperBrik_4WAY_HRF ../JULY10_2007A/results2TENT/stats.JULY10_2007A+tlrc ../JULY10_2007G/results2TENT/stats.JULY10_2007G+tlrc... (1 Reply)
Discussion started by: Jahn
1 Replies

7. Shell Programming and Scripting

Swapping three lines

I have some text: <date>some_date</date> <text>some_text</text> <name>some_name<name> and I want to transform it to smthng like that: some_name on some_date: some_text I've tried sed: sed 's/<text>\(.*\)<\/text> <name>\(.*\)<\/name>/\2 - \1/' but it says unterminated... (13 Replies)
Discussion started by: dsjkvf
13 Replies

8. Shell Programming and Scripting

Swapping fields

Hallo Team, This is the command that i am running : grep ",Call Forward Not Reachable" *2013* this is the output that i am getting (i did a head -10 but the files can be more than 1000) ... (8 Replies)
Discussion started by: kekanap
8 Replies

9. Solaris

Swapping

Hi Guys I am using SPARC-T4 (chipid 0, clock 2998 MHz), SunOS 5.10 Generic_150400-38 sun4v. How do I see if the server was doing some swapping like yesterday? I had a java application error with java.lang.OutOfMemoryError, now I want to check if the server was not doing some swapping at... (4 Replies)
Discussion started by: Phuti
4 Replies

10. Shell Programming and Scripting

Swapping lines

Hi there, I have a text that I'm trying to format into something more readable. However, I'm stuck in the last step. I've searched and tried things over the internet with no avail. OS: Mac After parsing the original text that I won't put here, I managed to get something like this, but this... (8 Replies)
Discussion started by: Kibou
8 Replies
swapon(1M)																swapon(1M)

NAME
swapon - enable device or file system for paging SYNOPSIS
Form 1: Enable all defined swap areas type]... Form 2: Enable paging on specified block devices (for the current boot) priority] device ... Form 3: Define the primary paging device (for subsequent boots) start] length] device Form 4: Unconfigure a previously set primary paging device (for subsequent boots) device Form 5: Enable file system swap (preferred form) min] limit] reserve] priority] directory ... Form 6: Enable file system swap (obsolescent form) directory [min limit reserve priority] DESCRIPTION
The command enables devices or file systems on which paging is to take place. command also configures primary paging device for next boot. (NOTE: the term `swap' refers to an obsolete implementation of virtual memory; HP-UX actually implements virtual memory by way of paging rather than swapping. This command and others retain names derived from `swap' for historical reasons.) By enabling a device for paging, the device can be accessed directly (without going through the file system) during paging activity. When a file system is enabled for paging, the device(s) on which the file system resides are accessed indirectly through the file system. There are advantages and disadvantages to both type of paging. Keep the following tradeoffs in mind when enabling devices or file systems for paging. Paging directly to a device is significantly faster than doing so through the file system. However, the space on the device that is allo- cated to paging cannot be used for anything else, even if it is not being actively used for paging. Paging through a file system, while slower, provides a more efficient use of the space on the device. Space that is not being used for paging in this case can be used by the file system. Paging across a network to a remote machine is always file system paging. The system begins by paging on only a single device so that only one disk is required at bootstrap time. Calls to normally occur in the system startup script making all paging space available so that the paging activity is interleaved across several disks. Normally, the option is given (see Form 1 of causing all devices marked as and all file systems marked as in the file to be made available to the paging system. By using the fields in (special_file_name or directory; see fstab(4)), the system determines which block device or file system to use. The special_file_name specified for each entry must specify a block special file. The directory specified for each entry must specify a directory within the file system to be enabled. In Form 2, the option enables specific block devices to be used for paging for the current boot. The device arguments must specify block special files. If more than one device is given, any options specified will be applied to all devices. In Form 3, the option configures the block device to be used as the primary paging area for subsequent boots. In either Form 2 or Form 3, if a file system exists on the specified block device and neither an nor option is specified, fails and an error message is given. This prevents a file system from being inadvertently destroyed. To request paging in the space between the end of the file system and the end of the device, use To force paging to a device containing a file system (destroying the file system), the option can be used. Use with extreme caution! In either Form 2 or Form 3, an attempt to enable paging to a device will fail and a warning message will be issued if determines that the device is being used by the command to retrieve system dump information (see savecrash(1M)). The option can be used to forcibly enable paging to devices being used by the command; however, this may overwrite system dump information contained on the device. In Form 4, the option unconfigures the block device that was previously defined as the primary paging area for subsequent boots (see option). The last two forms of provide methods for enabling file systems for paging. Form 5 is the preferred method. Form 6 is obsolescent and provided only for backward compatibility. The directory name in these forms specifies a directory on the file system that is to be enabled for paging. A directory named is created at the root of the specified file system (unless the file system's name ends with All paging files are created within this directory. The optional arguments to the sixth form have the same meaning as the arguments to the options in Form 5. Note that, in Form 6, if any of the optional arguments are specified, all must be specified. In Form 5, if more than one direc- tory is given, any options specified will be applied to all directories. After a file system has been enabled for paging, the optional arguments can be modified by subsequent commands. Options recognizes the following options and arguments: Cause all devices marked as and all file systems marked as in the file to be made available to the paging system. The options field in entries is read by and must contain elements formatted as follows: See the option for the value of min. See the option for the value of limit. (File system paging areas only.) See the option for the value of reserve. (File system paging areas only.) See the option for the value of priority. (File system paging areas only.) See the option for the meaning of this option. (Device paging areas only.) See fstab(4) for an example entry. Use space after the end of the file system on the block device for paging. An error message is returned if no file system is found on the device. This option cannot be used with the option. Do not confuse this with paging to a file system. This option is for use with a disk that has both a file system and dedicated paging space on it. Force the device to be enabled, which will destroy the file system on it. Use with extreme caution. Normally, if a file sys- tem exists on the device to be enabled, fails and displays an error message. This option cannot be used with the option. limit specifies the maximum space the paging system is allowed to take from the disk, provided space is available that is not reserved for exclusive use by the file system. The value of limit is rounded up so that it is a multiple of the paging allocation chunk size, which is set with the kernel tunable parameter (see swchunk(5), kctune(1M), and swap- info(1M)). See The default value for limit is 0, indicating there is no limit to the amount of file system space the paging system can use. limit can be specified in decimal (no prefix), octal prefix), or hexadecimal prefix). It may be specified in units of kilobytes suffix), megabytes suffix), or file system blocks (no suffix). (A kilobyte is 1024 bytes; a megabyte is 1024 kilobytes; the size of a file system block is determined by the administrator when the file system is created.) When configuring the primary paging device for next boot, length specifies the maximum number of blocks that will be used for paging. The default for length is to the end-of- device. can only be specified when defining primary swap space for subsequent boots; therefore, must be used in con- junction with the option. min indicates the space the paging system will initially take from the file system. The value of min is rounded up so that it is a multiple of the paging allocation chunk size, which is set with the kernel tunable parameter (see swchunk(5), kctune(1M), and swapinfo(1M)). The default value for min is 0, indicating no paging space is to be allo- cated initially. min can be specified in the same forms as limit, above. priority indicates the order in which space is taken from the file systems and devices used for paging. Space is taken from the systems with lower priority numbers first. Under most circumstances, space is taken from device paging areas before file system paging areas, regardless of priority. See "Paging Allocation" in swapinfo(1M) for more informa- tion. priority can have a value from 0 to 10 and has a default value of 1. reserve specifies the space, in addition to the space currently occupied by the file system, that is reserved for file system use only, making it unavailable to the paging system. This reserved space is in addition to the minimum free space specified by the administrator when the file system was created. See The default value for reserve is 0 indicating that no file system space is reserved for file system use only. reserve can be specified in the same forms as limit, above. Unconfigure the primary paging device that was previously set (with the option) as the primary paging area for subsequent boots. Configure the primary paging device for the next and subsequent boots. See also the and options. When configuring the primary paging device for subsequent boots, start specifies the block address on the device where the paging area will begin. The default value for start is 0 indicating that the device is dedicated to paging. A starting block can only be specified when defining primary swap space for subsequent boots; therefore, must be used in conjunction with the option. Restrict the type of the paging area. If the option is omitted, all of the paging areas defined in are made available. type can have one of the following values: Device paging areas. File system paging areas. Paging areas defined on the local system. Paging areas defined on remote systems. Unlock block device files which are being used by the command. Normally, will not enable paging on a device if it is being used by command to retrieve system dump infor- mation. The list of devices in use is maintained in the file This option forces the device to be enabled, which may overwrite any system dump information contained on the device. This option should be used with extreme caution. RETURN VALUE
returns one of the following values: Successful completion. An error condition occurred. EXAMPLES
The first two examples enable paging to the file system containing the directory. The maximum number of file system blocks available to the paging system is set to 5000, the number of file system blocks reserved for file system use only is set to 10000, and the priority is set to 2. The number of file system blocks initially taken by the paging system defaults to 0 in the first example, and is set to 0 in the second example. On a file system with the default 8kB block size, these examples allocate approximately 40MB of file system paging. This example enables paging to two block devices and sets the priority of both devices to 0. This example enables paging to a block device, using the space after the end of the file system for paging and letting the priority default to 1. This example enables paging to a block device, forcing paging even if a file system exists on the device. This example defines the primary paging device for the next boot, using the space after the end of the file system to the end of the device for paging. This example defines the primary paging device for the next boot, using 8192Kb of the device for paging, starting 1024Kb from the start of the device. WARNINGS
On systems running VxVM 3.5, the swap volumes to be configured for system crash dumps should be created with the usage type as during the creation of the swap volume. Not doing so will cause dump corruption. You could use the option of vxassist(1M) to do the same. Once file system blocks have been allocated for paging space, the file system cannot be unmounted unless the system is rebooted. If any paging area becomes unavailable while the system is running, for example if a network failure occurs while paging to a remote sys- tem, the system will immediately halt. The file system block size used by the and options varies between file systems, and is defined by the system administrator at the time the file system is created. The command can be used to determine the block size for a particular file system (see dumpfs(1M)). When using the and options, the reserve space specified by the option takes precedence over the option. Thus, if: D = Total disk space available to ordinary users R = Reserve space specified by the option limit = Paging space limit specified by the option L = Space currently available to the paging system F = Space currently occupied by the file system the following relationships hold: F + R + limit < D In normal operation L = 0 If F + R >= D 0 <= L <= limit If F + R + limit >= D FILES
Normal paging devices File system table List of devices being used by command AUTHOR
was developed by HP and the University of California, Berkeley. SEE ALSO
kctune(1M), savecrash(1M), swapinfo(1M), vxassist(1M), swapctl(2), swapon(2), fstab(4), swchunk(5). swapon(1M)
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:26 PM.
Unix & Linux Forums Content Copyright 1993-2022. All Rights Reserved.
Privacy Policy