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Top Forums UNIX for Beginners Questions & Answers Understanding the difference between individual BASH login scripts Post 303006893 by bodisha on Wednesday 8th of November 2017 06:18:58 PM
Old 11-08-2017
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Originally Posted by Corona688
First off, these files are shell scripts, so they do whatever their author wanted. This is responsible for a lot of the confusion - /etc/bashrc is not a file bash will load unless something else tells it to, but someone could easily have put . /etc/bashrc into /etc/profile for the same effect. You have to read these profile scripts to see what they do, no other way to know.
Thanks for the quick reply! I'm still unclear on a few points and I hope you don't mind a follow up question to straighten me out

To address your first comment about "they do whatever their author wanted"... When inspecting the files in question I noticed the comment "Functions and aliases go in /etc/bashrc" in the /etc/profile file

Based on some of the posts I've read while researching the subject... I got the impression certain files had very specific purposes... And I've even seen posts were people were saying builtin commands (like umask) wouldn't work in certain files... Can you confirm this? If so I'm trying to understand the exact rules surrounding which sort of functionality the individual startup files can support

The second part of your comment I'd like to address is you said

"/etc/bashrc is not a file bash will load unless something else tells it to, but someone could easily have put /etc/bashrc into /etc/profile"

While trying to understand this topic I edited each file and put echo commands in the individual files to see when they'd start. The /etc/bashrc started in both login and non-login shells. It loaded after the /etc/profile in a login shell (putty) and in the non-login shell (The gnome GUI terminal) when the /etc/profile didn't run.

I looked through the profile and all the scripts under the /etc/profile.d directory and couldn't locate anything calling the /etc/bashrc script. Could I ask you for a clue on where else I might look to see what's starting it?

Thanks for your patience
 

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AC(8)							    BSD System Manager's Manual 						     AC(8)

NAME
ac -- display connect time accounting SYNOPSIS
ac [-d | -p] [-t tty] [-w file] [users ...] DESCRIPTION
If the file /var/log/wtmp exists, a record of individual login and logout times are written to it by login(1) and init(8), respectively. The program ac examines these records and writes the accumulated connect time for all logins to the standard output. Options available: -d Display the connect times in 24 hour chunks. -p Display individual user totals. -t tty Only do accounting logins on certain ttys. The tty specification can start with '!' to indicate not this tty and end with '*' to indicate all similarly named ttys. Multiple -t flags may be specified. -w file Read raw connect time data from file instead of the default file /var/log/wtmp. users ... Display totals for the given individuals only. If no arguments are given, ac displays the total amount of login time for all active accounts on the system. The default wtmp file is an infinitely increasing file unless frequently truncated. This is normally done by the daily daemon scripts sched- uled by cron(8), which rename and rotate the wtmp files before truncating them (and keep about a week's worth on hand). No login times are collected, however, if the file does not exist. For example, ac -p -t "ttyd*" > modems ac -p -t "!ttyd*" > other allows times recorded in modems to be charged out at a different rate than other. The ac utility exits 0 on success, and >0 if a fatal error occurs. FILES
/var/log/wtmp connect time accounting file /var/log/wtmp.[0-7] rotated files SEE ALSO
login(1), utmp(5), init(8), sa(8) HISTORY
An ac command appeared in Version 6 AT&T UNIX. This version of ac was written for NetBSD 1.0 from the specification provided by various sys- tems' manual pages. BSD
April 19, 1994 BSD
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