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Top Forums Programming Open Source Vendor root access Post 302975274 by zaxxon on Friday 10th of June 2016 04:22:40 AM
Old 06-10-2016
What makes you sure that they don't need root access? There are of course commands, that can be only issued as root. Sure they can be added to sudoers, but they would have to list every one of them so you can allow them but this might be somewhat tideous.
It can also be of course for the ease of installation, that they ask for root access, which I do understand.

Yes, there are installations that can only be done as root or at least partially. When this is the case, there is usually some admin sitting next to them to at least check what they do. It should be inhouse and via remote session. That could be a criteria, that a software is only allowed on your systems when it can be setup with an own user in the selection process of a software before it is bought.

Though - there can always come code on your machines, that could do harm in terms of spying or destroying/manipulating data.
I doubt strongly, that anyone does a full code check of the software that is being installed on their systems even if it does not run with root permissions. For example - does anybody know what is in the complete code of an Oracle RDBMS installation? It is not even open source.
Even if it was open source software, who has the time, knowledge etc. to check every line of code if it has anything malicious in it.

Also usually most servers are placed in an internal network, protected by one or more firewalls, as long as you are no hosting company (they might have some mechanisms too, but I have no experience about it).
So any gathered data usually can not be sent outside your companies network as it would bounce against the firewall and hopefully alert the network guys for irregular communication.
There is still other ways to get the data out of the company, but this is broad and complex thing, which should be an issue for the security guys in the company.

And as Don says, it is always a question of trust and also of legal rules and liability in contracts with vendors which takes a big part in what you let them do or not.
You sometimes have to make compromises between security and get the stuff up and running.

Something like an IDS (AIDE, Tripwire, ...) can also be very good to check what will be modified on your systems. Also an audit system can come in very handy to log, what they do for later issues. These together with a good firewall handling will make ones life a tad less stressful in terms of security. Though you are right to have concerns and not let it pass half asleep Smilie

Last edited by zaxxon; 06-10-2016 at 06:55 AM.. Reason: update after some additional thoughts
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NAME
dtc_install_centos - bootstrap a CentOS install to use in a chroot or VM SYNOPSIS
dtc_install_centos <install root> <yum environment> DESCRIPTION
This shell script is part of the dtc-xen package, generally to be used by the dtc panel to install a new a Xen VPS server. This script is called by dtc_reinstall_os when the user chooses to install the CentOS operating system. How it works: it generates a temporary yum configuration in the yum environment directory, that directs yum to act inside the install root instead of in the base system; then it kindly requests yum to install the basesystem, centos-release and yum packages onto it. Yum then uses the configuration to download the required (usually, security-updated) packages and then perform the RPM installation process under the install root. It requires both RPM and yum. It does work under Debian (it was developed in Ubuntu first). It should also work on RPM-based systems without destroying the system-wide RPM and yum configurations. OPTION
<install root> Target directory where CentOS will be deployed. Must exist beforehand. <yum environment> Directory where yum will store the repository manifests and configuration. Will be automatically created. Cached RPMs and manifests will be left, as usual, in a directory var/cache/yum inside the install root. EXAMPLE
dtc_install_centos /root/yum /xen/13 This will setup the operating system in /xen/13, with the CentOS configuration folder in /root/yum. BUGS
It's limited to CentOS 5 at the moment. It must be run as root. Under some circumstances, the installation process itself may kill processes running on the host machine. The chroot yum does should be sufficient to avoid this, but we haven't been able, yet, to ascertain why this fails sometimes. SEE ALSO
dtc_reinstall_os(8) VERSION
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