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Operating Systems AIX Making Tar of directory and tar file is going to be placed Post 302967135 by bakunin on Friday 19th of February 2016 04:54:29 PM
Old 02-19-2016
Quote:
Originally Posted by filosophizer
is it possible to make a Tar of completely directory and placing the tar file in it (will this cause even the tar file to tarred ?)
Yes, that is possible - it is just not worth the hassle.

Quote:
Originally Posted by filosophizer
will the tar file backup.tgz also include backup.tgz ?
Without taking precautions: yes, it will, although in an incomplete and unusable form.

Note that this here is the AIX-forum and hence i suppose you use AIX as your OS. The AIX tar (as opposed to the GNU tar) does NOT know the suggested "--exclude" option , because it is not required by POSIX. This means the suggested solution will not not work in AIX as long as you are not willing to install a lot of (GNU-)software.

You can achieve the same using some find-statement to produce a list of file names in the directory minus the one with the name of the tar-file itself and feed that into tar. But, frankly: wouldn't be writing the tar-file elsewhere and finally moving it be a lot easier? In principle it is possible to walk from Europe to China on your hands, but: an airplane will get you there as well and it will be less tedious.

If you think about backing up your database that way, be warned: tar follows the ustar-standard and this limits the single input file to 8G of size. Therefore tar is a poor tool for database backups. (btw: cpio does the same). For the backup of Oracle databases consider using the Oracle-framework called RMAN and some backup tool. You need it anyway because you need to constantly shovel the archive logs off the machine when the DB is running.

I hope this helps.

bakunin
 

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tar(4)							     Kernel Interfaces Manual							    tar(4)

NAME
tar - format of tar tape archive DESCRIPTION
The header structure produced by (see tar(1)) is as follows (the array size defined by the constants is shown on the right): All characters are represented in ASCII. There is no padding used in the header block; all fields are contiguous. The fields magic, uname, and gname are null-terminated character strings. The fields name, linkname, and prefix are null-terminated char- acter strings except when all characters in the array contain non-null characters, including the last character. The version field is two bytes containing the characters (zero-zero). The typeflag contains a single character. All other fields are leading-zero-filled octal numbers in ASCII. Each numeric field is terminated by one or more space or null characters. The name and the prefix fields produce the pathname of the file. The hierarchical relationship of the file is retained by specifying the pathname as a path prefix, with a slash character and filename as the suffix. If the prefix contains non-null characters, prefix, a slash character, and name are concatenated without modification or addition of new characters to produce a new pathname. In this manner, path- names of at most 256 characters can be supported. If a pathname does not fit in the space provided, the format-creating utility notifies the user of the error, and no attempt is made to store any part of the file, header, or data on the medium. SEE ALSO
tar(1) STANDARDS CONFORMANCE
tar(4)
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