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Top Forums UNIX for Advanced & Expert Users Help optimizing sort of large files Post 302925215 by kogorman3 on Friday 14th of November 2014 02:41:34 PM
Old 11-14-2014
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Originally Posted by Corona688
sort is a merge-sort, which has no need or use for gigantic memory buffers -- unless you want to use more memory than is available and eat into swap, that is. If you have very high-performance swap that can be useful. Otherwise, leave -buffer-size out and let it manage itself.
I'm pretty sure that the buffer-size parameter controls only pass 1, which is where actual sorting occurs. It controls the size of the first set of temporary files. All subsequent passes are merges. Moreover, the default on my system is similar to what I get when I specify 4g, and is distinctly sub-optimal.

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Originally Posted by Corona688
-parallel should be a big performance gain -- if you have enough memory that it doesn't need to thrash your disk, and fast enough disks to keep up. If not, it will just make things worse.
In testing, the gain was real but not big. The elephant in the room here seems to be the number of passes, and I/O time is a large percent of the total. While threading improves overlap, they're still competing for use of the same input and output files and directories.
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Originally Posted by Corona688
I don't see any something-for-nothing solutions here. You won't squeeze out anything but percents here and there unless you deal with the bottlenecks. Every time you tell it "use more resources" and it slows down, that's a bottleneck. Every time you tell it "use less files" and it speeds up, that's a bottleneck.

1) More RAM -- the more the OS can cache, the less it has to wait on the disk. Brute force, but there's a reason RAM is popular, it works really well.
2) A different temp space. If you put /tmp/ on a different disk spindle than the file you are sorting, you can get the bandwidth of two disks instead of splitting the bandwidth of one disk several ways (and eliminate a lot of disk thrashing time). It doesn't have to be /tmp/ of course, sort -T puts the files wherever you ask.
3) Faster swap. Eat up more RAM than you have available and depend on an SSD to make up the difference. This could be good, though sounds rather complicated to me.
Fair enough. But RAM is already 32GB, which maxes out my motherboard. Input, temporaries and output are already on three separate drives. Swap is separate and on an SSD, but I don't think I'm using it. So I'm squeezing out percentages. Fortunately, some of them are worth the effort; I'm already running about twice as fast as the built-in defaults, which have over-large buffers and not enough streams in a batch.
 

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