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Special Forums Cybersecurity Another Certificate question Post 302911641 by Lost in Cyberia on Saturday 2nd of August 2014 02:25:04 AM
Old 08-02-2014
Another Certificate question

Hey everyone, another question on certificate chains...

When a site applies for an ssl certificate, do they have to apply to a root CA? or can they apply to a root, or one of the many smaller CA companies? Then once they obtain a cert from that smaller CA, the company gets it's cert signed by a real root? Is evidence of this, when you look at the certificate viewer in a browser and it says something like
Quote:
VERISIGN CLASS C ROOT CA
SomeSmallerCA inc.
example.com

The company, example.com applied for their cert at SomeSmallerCA, inc, which in turned got it's cert signed by Verisign?


Now if I see something like :
Quote:
VERISIGN CLASS C ROOT CA
VERISIGN CLASS C EXTENDED VAL.
example.com

The above means that the company, example.com applied directed to the root CA, but they then signed their main cert with an intermediary cert?

So one is a bottom up application and the other is a top down application process? Can there be a mixture of both? Where you apply to a smaller company which goes up to a root, but the root signs an intermediary, before then finally signing to the smaller CA?

Thanks!

Last edited by rbatte1; 08-04-2014 at 07:38 AM.. Reason: Added QUOTE tags
 

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NAME
lprng_certs - lprng SSL certificate management SYNOPSIS
lprng_certs option Options: init - make directory structure newca - make new root CA defaults - set new default values for certs gen - generate user, server, or signing cert index [dir] - index cert files verify [cert] - verify cert file encrypt keyfile - set or change keyfile password DESCRIPTION
The lprng_certs program is used to manage SSL certificates for the LPRng software. There SSL certificate structure consists of a hierarchy of certificates. The LPRng software assumes that the following types of certificates will be used: CA or root A top level or self-signed certificate. signing A certificate that can be used to sign other certificates. This is signed by the root CA or another signing certificate. user A certificate used by a user to identify themselves to the lpd server. server A certificate used by the lpd server to identify themselves to the user or other lpd servers. Signing Certificates All of the signing certificates, including the root certificate (root CA), /etc/lpd/ssl.ca/ca.crt, are in the same directory as the root CA file. Alternately, all of the signing certs can be concatenated and put into a single file, which by convention is assumed to have the same name as the root CA file, /etc/lpd/ssl.ca/ca.crt. The ssl_ca_file, ssl_ca_path, and ssl_ca_key printcap and configuration options can be used to specify the locations of the root CA files, a directory containing the signing certificate files, and the private key file for the root CA file respectively. The root certificate (root CA file) /etc/lpd/ssl.ca/ca.crt has a private key file /etc/lpd/ssl.ca/ca.key as well. By convention, the pri- vate keys for the other signing certificate files are stored in the certificate file. The OpenSSL software requires that this directory also contain a set of hash files which are, in effect, links to these files. By default, all signing certificates are assumed to be in the same directory as the root certificate. Server Certificates The certificate used by the lpd server are kept in another directory. These files do not need to have hash links to them. By convention, the private keys for these certificate files are stored in the certificate file. The server certificate file is specified by the ssl_server_cert and has the default value /etc/lpd/ssl.server/server.crt. This file contains the cert and private key. The server cer- tificate password file is specified by the ssl_server_password option with the default value @SSL_SERVER_PASSWORD@ and contains the pass- word used to decrypt the servers private key and use it for authentication. This key file should be read only by the lpd server. User Certificates The certificates used by users are kept in a separate directory in the users home directory. By convention, the private keys for these certificate files are stored in the certificate file. The user certificate file is specified by the LPR_SSL_FILE environment variable, otherwise the ${HOME}/.lpr/client.crt is used. The pass- word is taken from the file specified by the LPR_SSL_PASSWORD environment variable, otherwise the ${HOME}/.lpr/client.pwd file is read. USING LPRNG_CERTS The organization of the SSL certificates used by LPRng is similar to that used by other programs such as the Apache mod_ssl support. The lprng_certs program is used to create the directory structure, create certificates for the root CA, signing, user and servers. In order to make managment simple, the following support is provided. lprng_certs init This command creates the directories used by the lpd server. It is useful when setting up a new lpd server. lprng_certs newca This command creates a self-signed certificate, suitable for use as a root CA certificate. It also sets up a set of default values for other certificate creation. lprng_certs defaults This command is used to modify the set of default values. The default values are listed and should be self-explanatory, except for the value of the signer certificate. By default, the root CA can be used to sign certificates. However, a signing certificate can be used as well. This allows delegation of signing authority without compromising the security of the root CA. lprng_certs gen This is used to generate a user, server, or signing certificate. lprng_certs index This is used to create the indexes for the signing certificates. lprng_certs verify [cert] This checks the certificate file using the Openssl openssl verify command. lprng_certs encrypt keyfile This removes all key information from the key file, reencrypts the key information, and the puts the encrypted key information in the file. LPRng OPTIONS Option Purpose ssl_ca_path directory holding the SSL signing certs ssl_ca_file file holding the root CA or all SSL signing certs ssl_server_cert cert file for the server ssl_server_password file containing password for server server ${HOME}/.lpr/client.crt client certificate file ${HOME}/.lpr/client.pwd client certificate private key password ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES
LPR_SSL_FILE client certificate file LPR_SSL_PASSWORD client certificate private key password EXIT STATUS
The following exit values are returned: zero (0) Successful completion. non-zero (!=0) An error occurred. SEE ALSO
lpd.conf(5), lpc(8), lpd(8), checkpc(8), lpr(1), lpq(1), lprm(1), printcap(5), lpd.conf(5), pr(1), lprng_certs(1), lprng_index_certs(1). HISTORY
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