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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? The Benefits or Not of Certification (was LPIC certification) Post 302886600 by Neo on Sunday 2nd of February 2014 10:41:25 AM
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Yes, I understand that and it's good to have different viewpoints; and many companies these days make the same mistake of hiring based on "certs" because they are too lazy to do the due diligence to property check credentials, references and projects of employees; so they think they have some "legal protection" from hiring "certs".

This supports my earlier point, in my view, that people and organizations often look for "short cuts" for health (as I mentioned in the context of "multivitamins" and the same is true for "certs"); however, my experience is that top tech companies (and myself as a hiring manager / director level before) do not care.

Google, for example, does not seem to care if people have certs. It was not long ago Google contacted many forum members (here) some interviewed and shared their experiences; Google did not care about "certs".. they cared about "show me your skills".. not "show me your certs".

In fact, if I was in an interview and people asked about "certs" I would politely say "thanks but this interview is over" as I would never work for a company which places an emphasis on such superficial things.

If I want evidence of "certain body of knowledge" (wearing the hat of a hiring manager) I will ask them to "show me" via the interview process, their portfolio, prior projects, social networks, references and the like. If they show me a cert, I'll just laugh (inside) personally, and I've done a lot of interviews over the years as a part of the hiring process.

However, I do understand the "multivitamin" culture of short cuts, CYA, etc; but I have talked to a lot of hiring managers over the years; and some even say "I will not hire junior or lower mid level person until they have participated in an open source type of project" like Apache2, Hadoop, or something substantial.. None look for certs, not one.

Having said that, it's always good we share different views and we certainly don't need to agree on everything, all the time; so please continue to share your ideas, pro and con, if you have strong feelings either way. After all, it's good we have different points of view and experiences to share with others.
 

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BBSTORED-CERTS(8)						    Box Backup							 BBSTORED-CERTS(8)

NAME
bbstored-certs - Manage certificates for the Box Backup system SYNOPSIS
bbstored-certs certs-dir command [arguments] DESCRIPTION
bbstored-certs creates and signs certificates for use in Box Backup. It allows the user to create and sign the server keys, as well as signing client keys. All commands must be followed by the certs-dir, which is the directory in which the certificates are stored. Commands There are 3 commands: init Create the certs-dir, and generate the server keys for bbstored. certs-dir cannot exist before running the command. sign-server servercsrfile Sign the server certificate. The servercsrfile is the file generated by the init command. sign clientcsrfile Sign a client certificate. The clientcsrfile is generated during client setup. See bbackupd-config(8). Send the signed certificate back to the client, and install according to the instructions given by bbackupd-config. FILES
raidfile-config(8) generates the raidfile.conf(5) file. BUGS
If you find a bug in Box Backup, and you want to let us know about it, join the mailing list[1], and send a description of the problem there. To report a bug, give us at least the following information: o The version of Box Backup you are running o The platform you are running on (hardware and OS), for both client and server. o If possible attach your config files (bbstored.conf, bbackupd.conf) to the bug report. o Also attach any log file output that helps shed light on the problem you are seeing. o And last but certainly not least, a description of what you are seeing, in as much detail as possible. SEE ALSO
bbstored-config(8), bbstored.conf(5), bbstoreaccounts(8) AUTHORS
Ben Summers Per Thomsen James O'Gorman NOTES
1. mailing list http://lists.warhead.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/boxbackup Box Backup 0.11 10/28/2011 BBSTORED-CERTS(8)
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