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Operating Systems AIX Quorum and hdisk issue Post 302827079 by bakunin on Thursday 27th of June 2013 10:36:18 PM
Old 06-27-2013
You should really describe your problem better / more exactly. The following was in no way obvious from you first posting:

Quote:
Originally Posted by newtoaixos
before i do the varyoffvg i need to unmount the 2 filesystems present under that VG.
Are the FSs mounted and accessible?? What is the output of:

Code:
lsvg -l appvg
lsvg -p appvg

Somehow i doubt that the filesystems are still available when the VG has been closed.

What does "errpt" tell you? The "quorum" is the minimum number of disks that have to present to make a VG valid. Once less disks than this quorum are there the VG is forced offline, which means all the FSs belonging to it are unmounted (which is why i doubt they really are there). Further, there must be some entry in the "errpt" log regarding a hdisk device failing, otherwise the quorum wouldn't have been lost.

Quote:
I have informed the application team already about this issue. probably when they give me the downtime I will unmount and then try to varyoff the VG.
NO!

When they decided to commission a system where disks are not redundant they forfeited any right to have an uninterruptible service. Hardware is failing from time to time, that is old news. Either you have hardware (regardless of what it is: network cards, disks, processors, power supplies, ... ) redundant, so that when one part fails the other is still there or you have hardware not redundant: then you have to expect the service to be interrupted from time to time. Everything else is "wash me, but don't make me wet in the process": rubbish. No admin in his right mind lets get himself in such a double-bind situation.

Your 2 disks could not have been redundant, because in this case the quorum should have been deactivated: a VG consisting of two mirrored disks is safe even if there is only one of these disk present. (If the disks were indeed mirrored: i suggest firing the idiot who configured such a horse manure on the spot for proven incompetence.)

Additional question: what are these disks? LUNs? (provided via VIOS?, NPIV? other?) Physical disks? RAID-sets? Show the output of these commands:

Quote:
lsdev -Cc disk
lsattr -El hdisk1 / hdisk2
Background is: is there a chance that the inavailability of the disk(s) might be temporary in nature? It might work if you issue

Code:
varyonvg -bu appvg

in this case.

I hope this helps.

bakunin
 

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mkqdisk(8)						      Quorum Disk Management							mkqdisk(8)

NAME
mkqdisk - Cluster Quorum Disk Utility WARNING
Use of this command can cause the cluster to malfunction. SYNOPSIS
mkqdisk [-?|-h] | [-L] | [-f label] [-c device -l label] [-d [-d ...]] DESCRIPTION
The mkqdisk command is used to create a new quorum disk or display existing quorum disks accessible from a given cluster node. OPTIONS
-c device -l label Initialize a new cluster quorum disk. This will destroy all data on the given device. If a cluster is currently using that device as a quorum disk, the entire cluster will malfunction. Do not run this on an active cluster when qdiskd is running. Only one device on the SAN should ever have the given label; using multiple different devices is currently not supported (it is expected a RAID array is used for quorum disk redundancy). The label can be any textual string up to 127 characters - and is therefore enough space to hold a UUID created with uuidgen(1). -f label Find the cluster quorum disk with the given label and display information about it. -L Display information on all accessible cluster quorum disks. -d Increase debugging level. Specify multiple times for more information. Currently, specifying more than twice has no effect. SEE ALSO
qdisk(5), qdiskd(8), uuidgen(1) July 2006 mkqdisk(8)
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