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The Lounge What is on Your Mind? Linux Desktop vs Windows 8 Post 302744613 by Corona688 on Friday 14th of December 2012 01:36:02 PM
Old 12-14-2012
Having just had my first experience with a Windows 8 PC, thought I'd note my experiences.

The PC was supposed to come with Windows 7 but came with Windows 8. I took one look at it and thought "No, this will not do". The whole thing's been dumbed down to the point of absurdity. It wants your MSN login to make a user account!

First step, disk-dump the whole PC so I can restore it to win8 if I need to return it. That meant booting a Linux livecd, which turned out to need a few hoops jumped through. It still gave me an ordinary looking boot menu with F9 on POST, but wouldn't even try to boot from CD devices, just ignored them.

Step 1: Disable secure boot. The BIOS complained about this, but let me do it. Surprisingly, Win 8 still booted in insecure mode. The BIOS also still ignored all CD devices.

Step 2: REALLY disable secure boot. I had to disable secure booting on each drive individually.

THEN it would let me boot from CD, and acted like a fairly standard PC. The disk looked weird in fdisk, which I thought might be some insidious encryption or something, but turned out to be an ordinary GPT partition that needed parted instead.

Reformatting with Windows 7 was uneventful. HP pretended they didn't have drivers for it, but it was a relabelled Win7 model, and those drivers still worked.

So, the sky hasn't fallen, some freedom remains. Microsoft has done what it always does -- add more hoops. It's possible you might be stuck in Win 8 if your mainboard manufacturer is stupid and lazy enough to not bother with the disable setting.

Last edited by Corona688; 12-14-2012 at 02:48 PM..
 

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