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Special Forums Cybersecurity Root login in Linux - does it make sense? Post 302728051 by bakunin on Wednesday 7th of November 2012 09:27:50 AM
Old 11-07-2012
Root login in Linux - does it make sense?

I stumbled upon this thread and one aspect of it got me thinking. As i am building a small Linux network right now for a friend i would like to hear your opinion on this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corona688
...or just not do that. Typically you'd login as a regular user then su or sudo. This restriction is for a reason.
I'd like to respectfully disagree. I think the Linux habit of disabling root login per default is wrong (not entirely good, more precisely) , based on the following reason:

It is easy to see that for private purposes, where one (or any other very small number) of systems is in play this restriction makes sense. It enhances system security and is therefore a good thing to have.

Still, apart from private usage there is the corporate usage of Linux systems. Administrating up to several hundreds of (maybe virtualized) Linux systems typically involves carrying out one command on several or all systems in parallel. If i want to know which systems have a certain package/version combination installed I'd issue some rpm-command on all systems, for instance, to find out which systems need a certain update.

To do so is basically impossible without having root access to the system directly. Yes, it would be possible to query the version information as a normal user in the example above - suppose this shows that 50 systems need a certain package to be installed. You need root to do and nobody wants to go through the motions of logging on to one system after the other, issue a "sudo su - root", enter his own password fifty times and then carry out a single command to actually install the package.

Probably every commercial Unix has provisions to make this a one-liner. In IBMs AIX (this i know best) for instance there is "dsh" (distributed shell), which is a rework of a part of the PSSP middleware introduced for the SP/2 (i can't remember when this platform was launched, probably somewhere in the beginning of the nineties).

When i install AIX systems i usually start the customization with establishing exchanged ssh-keys as a "chain of trust" with some central management system (usually my NIM-server) and then use this system to administrate the system further. Most of my work is done without directly logging on to the system but by developing and executing scripts, which use "dsh" (or even while-loops feeding some host-list into a "ssh"-command) to execute commands remotely.

So, to come back to my point "log in as normal user and 'sudo su' to root" is an advice of dubious quality IMHO. Yes, if your system is for private use or anything similar to this it is good, in a real data center it is rather less practicable.

bakunin
 

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  NAME
      csp_helper - A collection of caspar helper scripts

  SYNOPSIS
      csp_install dir (directory) file (file)

      csp_mkdircp dir (directory) file (file)

      csp_scp_keep_mode h ([user@]host) dir (directory) file (file)

      csp_sucp h ([user@]host) dir (directory) file (file)

  DESCRIPTION
      The  scripts  csp_install,  csp_mkdircp,	csp_scp_keep_mode  and csp_sucp are helpers for caspar(7). These scripts typically are not invoked
      directly, but via a Makefile which uses caspar. See the notes on	csp_PUSH  in  caspar(7)  for  information  on  how  to	link  csp_install,
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  install DESCRIPTION
      csp_install creates the required directory (if needed) and installs the file, preserving timestamps. It uses install(1).

  install EXAMPLES
       csp_INSTALL_OPTIONS='--owner=www-data --group=www-data' 
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      csp_install honors csp_INSTALL_OPTIONS and csp_INSTALL_MODE (default is u=rw,go=r).

  mkdircp DESCRIPTION
      csp_mkdircp calls mkdir(1) and cp(1).

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      csp_scp_keep_mode  uses  ssh to copy a file to a remote host, keeping its file permission mode. The trick used is a combination of mktemp(1)
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	chmod g+w rc
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  sucp DESCRIPTION
      csp_sucp calls cat(1) from within sudo(1) from within ssh(1). This allows one to copy files to accounts on hosts one can only reach by call-
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  sucp EXAMPLES
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  csp_helper 20120514						      14 mai 2012						       csp_helper(1)
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