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Top Forums UNIX for Dummies Questions & Answers With Linux do Hardware Brands Matter? Post 302584332 by Corona688 on Thursday 22nd of December 2011 09:04:38 PM
Old 12-22-2011
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Originally Posted by bggibson
We have run software on Dell Servers w/ Windows and seen the performance degrade overtime. We switched to an IBM server w/ AIX and have not seen the same performance degradation over time. In fact, the IBM servers are at least five years old and continue to preform well at the same level.

How much of that is hardware vs. operating system?
Windows has its problems, but you can't blame it all on the OS. A fresh install of Windows XP on a 10 year old machine won't perform as well as it did 10 years ago because it's expected to do a lot more than it did 10 years ago.

There's kind of an obligation to keep an antivirus running on a network-connected Windows machine, especially a server. AVG used to run reasonably in 64 megs. Now it won't even try to run in 512. Their full-download exe's have more than quadrupled in size in 5 years. And that's one of the less demanding AV's. I can't even imagine what Mcaffee and Norton require these days.

On top of that, much new software will force you to install otherwise-nonessential updates just to function. The smart ones bundle many with them, so they don't even need to ask ( I think this may account for some of AVG's increasing girth ).

So I don't think it's the Windows operating system that's ultimately to blame as much as the Windows software model. There's still people using Visual Studio 6.0, buggy and old as it is, because anything newer adds an entire .Net requirement to any program containing "int main()". If you build your software with MS tools, it will demand not just newer systems, but more runtime software in general.

There's no such continuous push to extend your operating environment in UNIX. Security fixes are one thing, but your distributor's not likely to suddenly decide they really, really like a newfangled language and insist on using it for everything, dragging along its hundreds of megs of footprint, memory-hungry daemon+runtime optimizer+JIT compiler, and endless updates just to do what used to work without it. Usually. (Looking at you, Java. ;p)

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Furthermore, it really does matter what you intend to do with the server. I ran a web and database server with a good number of decently intensive sites on it for several years using an old Pentium III 866Mhz with 512M RAM, with the load average mostly below .1. One instance of Wordpress took more CPU and resources than everything else combined. It's keeping the improved 3Ghz machine at a load of .4 even now.

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pstatectl(1M)															     pstatectl(1M)

NAME
pstatectl - control processor performance states SYNOPSIS
cpu] pstate| interval] DESCRIPTION
The command is used to control processor performance states (P-states). On systems with supported processors and firmware, processor per- formance states can reduce power consumption. A supported processor implements a series of performance states, numbered from P0 to Pn, where n is implementation dependent. Each subse- quent P-state consumes less power but offers less performance than the previous state. provides access to both static and dynamic performance state usage modes. In static mode, the system remains in a specified P-state, where power consumption and performance are reduced by a fixed amount. In dynamic mode, HP-UX will adjust the processors' P-states individually, in response to the workload running on the system. Enabling dynamic processor performance states will generally have a negligible effect on system performance, while at the same time reduc- ing power consumption when the system is not fully loaded. Options recognizes the following options: The operation will apply to the specified processor only. If is not specified, the operation applies to the whole system. The "status" operation will report detailed status for each processor. Otherwise, a summary of the system state is reported. Operands recognizes the following operands; only one operand at a time can be specified on the command line: Enable the dynamic P-states mode (processors will adjust performance to match the workload). Disable the P-states (processors will always be at maximum performance). Enable static mode (processors will always be in the specified P-state). If the specified state is higher than is supported, the highest supported state is used instead. The state may be specified as a number, or in P-state notation (for example, P0). Enable dynamic P-states mode within the range of states specified. and should be supplied as specified under the option. Report information about the system's P-state capabilities, the current P-state mode (static or dynamic), and whether HP-UX has control over processor P-states. If was speci- fied, each processor's current P-state and operating mode are displayed. Display a table listing the power consumption and relative performance of each P-state. Print the number of the highest implemented P-state on the system. If the system does not support P-states, the number is 0. Change the time interval between dynamic mode state changes to the specified duration. The minimum is 0.01 seconds, and the maximum is 600 seconds. EXTERNAL INFLUENCES
On some systems, the Onboard Administrator may take control of P-states away from the operating system (for instance, when iLO is used to place the system in Static High Performance or Static Low Power mode). If HP-UX does not have control over processor performance states, the command will still work normally. However, any changes made to P-state modes will have no effect until HP-UX regains control. The command will report whether HP-UX currently has control over P-states. RETURN VALUE
returns the following values: Successful completion. Command failed. DIAGNOSTICS
Make sure that the system has Itanium(R) 2 9100 series or later processors, and that the installed system firmware supports P- states. EXAMPLES
To enable dynamic P-states on the system: To disable dynamic P-states on the system (all processors will be in maximum performance mode): or To restrict the system to P0 and P1 only: DEPENDENCIES
Processor performance states require Itanium(R) 2 9100 series processors or later models. Some systems require a firmware update to use processor performance states. AUTHOR
was developed by HP. SEE ALSO
(Itanium(R)-based Systems Only) pstatectl(1M)
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