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Top Forums UNIX for Dummies Questions & Answers About Unix File creation time Post 302575349 by Corona688 on Monday 21st of November 2011 11:02:31 AM
Old 11-21-2011
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Originally Posted by gaellafond
Thanks for this info Corona688 (and vbe),
Since Ext4 was part of the Kernel, I assumed it was a Unix FS. Obviously, I was wrong, it's only used with Linux. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I don't know if it's true, but I read somewhere that only Ubuntu is currently shipped with Ext4 by default (the post might be a bit old, I don't remember). I suppose that's means that only Ubuntu can give you the creation time, as long as you don't explicitly choose Ext4 when you install Linux.
That's probably a bit old by now. Ubuntu adopted it early.

Good to know there's a better reason than peer pressure to use ext4, though, but there's more important considerations than features when picking a filesystem.
  • Is it safe?
  • Is it sane?
  • Is it portable?
  • Can it recover from errors?
  • Will it grind down into a sticky mass after a few years of use?

The answers for ext3 are generally 'yes', 'yes', 'yes', 'yes', and 'no'. You can't say that for a lot of experimental or higher-performance filesystems. Some are untested, some are picky about how they're used, xfs fsck blows up on 32-bit, the kernel driver for reiserfs didn't compile right on 64-bit for a long time, ls on reiserfs3 can take 5 seconds of thrashing once you've used it 2 years, etc, etc, etc. Unless there's a high performance need you can count on ext3 not betraying you in these ways. So most maintainers were happy to wait and see if ext4 was all it was cracked up to be.

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FILESYSTEMS(5)                                               Linux Programmer's Manual                                              FILESYSTEMS(5)

NAME
filesystems - Linux filesystem types: ext, ext2, ext3, ext4, hpfs, iso9660, JFS, minix, msdos, ncpfs nfs, ntfs, proc, Reiserfs, smb, sysv, umsdos, vfat, XFS, xiafs, DESCRIPTION
When, as is customary, the proc filesystem is mounted on /proc, you can find in the file /proc/filesystems which filesystems your kernel currently supports; see proc(5) for more details. If you need a currently unsupported filesystem, insert the corresponding module or recompile the kernel. In order to use a filesystem, you have to mount it; see mount(8). Below a short description of the available or historically available filesystems in the Linux kernel. See kernel documentation for a comprehensive description of all options and limitations. ext is an elaborate extension of the minix filesystem. It has been completely superseded by the second version of the extended filesystem (ext2) and has been removed from the kernel (in 2.1.21). ext2 is the high performance disk filesystem used by Linux for fixed disks as well as removable media. The second extended filesystem was designed as an extension of the extended filesystem (ext). See ext2 (5). ext3 is a journaling version of the ext2 filesystem. It is easy to switch back and forth between ext2 and ext3. See ext3 (5). ext4 is a set of upgrades to ext3 including substantial performance and reliability enhancements, plus large increases in volume, file, and directory size limits. See ext4 (5). hpfs is the High Performance Filesystem, used in OS/2. This filesystem is read-only under Linux due to the lack of available documentation. iso9660 is a CD-ROM filesystem type conforming to the ISO 9660 standard. High Sierra Linux supports High Sierra, the precursor to the ISO 9660 standard for CD-ROM filesystems. It is automatically recognized within the iso9660 filesystem support under Linux. Rock Ridge Linux also supports the System Use Sharing Protocol records specified by the Rock Ridge Interchange Protocol. They are used to further describe the files in the iso9660 filesystem to a UNIX host, and provide information such as long filenames, UID/GID, POSIX permissions, and devices. It is automatically recognized within the iso9660 filesystem support under Linux. JFS is a journaling filesystem, developed by IBM, that was integrated into Linux in kernel 2.4.24. minix is the filesystem used in the Minix operating system, the first to run under Linux. It has a number of shortcomings, including a 64 MB partition size limit, short filenames, and a single timestamp. It remains useful for floppies and RAM disks. msdos is the filesystem used by DOS, Windows, and some OS/2 computers. msdos filenames can be no longer than 8 characters, followed by an optional period and 3 character extension. ncpfs is a network filesystem that supports the NCP protocol, used by Novell NetWare. To use ncpfs, you need special programs, which can be found at <ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/ncpfs>. nfs is the network filesystem used to access disks located on remote computers. ntfs replaces Microsoft Window's FAT filesystems (VFAT, FAT32). It has reliability, performance, and space-utilization enhancements plus features like ACLs, journaling, encryption, and so on. proc is a pseudo filesystem which is used as an interface to kernel data structures rather than reading and interpreting /dev/kmem. In particular, its files do not take disk space. See proc(5). Reiserfs is a journaling filesystem, designed by Hans Reiser, that was integrated into Linux in kernel 2.4.1. smb is a network filesystem that supports the SMB protocol, used by Windows for Workgroups, Windows NT, and Lan Manager. See <https://www.samba.org/samba/smbfs/>. sysv is an implementation of the SystemV/Coherent filesystem for Linux. It implements all of Xenix FS, SystemV/386 FS, and Coherent FS. umsdos is an extended DOS filesystem used by Linux. It adds capability for long filenames, UID/GID, POSIX permissions, and special files (devices, named pipes, etc.) under the DOS filesystem, without sacrificing compatibility with DOS. vfat is an extended FAT filesystem used by Microsoft Windows95 and Windows NT. vfat adds the capability to use long filenames under the MSDOS filesystem. XFS is a journaling filesystem, developed by SGI, that was integrated into Linux in kernel 2.4.20. xiafs was designed and implemented to be a stable, safe filesystem by extending the Minix filesystem code. It provides the basic most requested features without undue complexity. The xiafs filesystem is no longer actively developed or maintained. It was removed from the kernel in 2.1.21. SEE ALSO
fuse(4), btrfs(5), ext2(5), ext3(5), ext4(5), nfs(5), proc(5), tmpfs(5), fsck(8), mkfs(8), mount(8) COLOPHON
This page is part of release 4.15 of the Linux man-pages project. A description of the project, information about reporting bugs, and the latest version of this page, can be found at https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/. Linux 2017-09-15 FILESYSTEMS(5)
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