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Top Forums Programming sockets - can you send data while waiting on select() Post 302527246 by Loic Domaigne on Friday 3rd of June 2011 01:42:31 AM
Old 06-03-2011
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Originally Posted by expl
Sockets are also not available on EVERY system, does not mean you should not use them. The option is available on Windows, Linux and BSDs, haven't checked more.

Go check the POSIX specification for socket's options. The STANDARD said so.

<snip>

I apologize for my rudeness.
You're forgiven.

SO_RCVTIMEO has been standardized with the Single Unix Specification ("aka Unix98"). The POSIX standard that deals with socket is IEEE Std 1003.1g-2000 ("aka Posix.1g") and AFAICS setting timeout on socket is not mandatory.

A decade ago, select() was considered the most portable way to achieve timeout; as there were many unix-like systems that had sockets, but not SO_RCVTIMEO. Now 13 years after Unix98, I expect most modern system to support this option. Even if you don't work on a "archaic system", you may find this pattern in older code.

Beside this point, there might be situation where select() - or rather the modern version poll() - makes more sense. Like: variable timeout depending on the expected answer length, when the polymorphic aspect of the descriptor is used...

I checked the Linux/FreeBSD kernel source. For Linux, you're right: recv() call the poll() syscall internally. For FreeBSD, both select() and recv() are built on the tsleep() syscall.

Cheers, Loïc

Last edited by Loic Domaigne; 06-03-2011 at 06:51 AM.. Reason: grammar
 

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PCAP_GET_SELECTABLE_FD(3PCAP)											     PCAP_GET_SELECTABLE_FD(3PCAP)

NAME
pcap_get_selectable_fd - get a file descriptor on which a select() can be done for a live capture SYNOPSIS
#include <pcap/pcap.h> int pcap_get_selectable_fd(pcap_t *p); DESCRIPTION
pcap_get_selectable_fd() returns, on UNIX, a file descriptor number for a file descriptor on which one can do a select() or poll() to wait for it to be possible to read packets without blocking, if such a descriptor exists, or -1, if no such descriptor exists. Some network devices opened with pcap_create() and pcap_activate(), or with pcap_open_live(), do not support select() or poll() (for example, regular network devices on FreeBSD 4.3 and 4.4, and Endace DAG devices), so -1 is returned for those devices. Note that in: FreeBSD prior to FreeBSD 4.6; NetBSD prior to NetBSD 3.0; OpenBSD prior to OpenBSD 2.4; Mac OS X prior to Mac OS X 10.7; select() and poll() do not work correctly on BPF devices; pcap_get_selectable_fd() will return a file descriptor on most of those versions (the exceptions being FreeBSD 4.3 and 4.4), but a simple select() or poll() will not indicate that the descriptor is readable until a full buffer's worth of packets is received, even if the read timeout expires before then. To work around this, an application that uses select() or poll() to wait for packets to arrive must put the pcap_t in non-blocking mode, and must arrange that the select() or poll() have a timeout less than or equal to the read timeout, and must try to read packets after that timeout expires, regardless of whether select() or poll() indicated that the file descriptor for the pcap_t is ready to be read or not. (That workaround will not work in FreeBSD 4.3 and later; however, in FreeBSD 4.6 and later, select() and poll() work correctly on BPF devices, so the workaround isn't necessary, although it does no harm.) Note also that poll() doesn't work on character special files, including BPF devices, in Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5, so, while select() can be used on the descriptor returned by pcap_get_selectable_fd(), poll() cannot be used on it those versions of Mac OS X. Kqueues also don't work on that descriptor. poll(), but not kqueues, work on that descriptor in Mac OS X releases prior to 10.4; poll() and kqueues work on that descriptor in Mac OS X 10.6 and later. pcap_get_selectable_fd() is not available on Windows. RETURN VALUE
A selectable file descriptor is returned if one exists; otherwise, -1 is returned. SEE ALSO
pcap(3PCAP), select(2), poll(2) 5 April 2008 PCAP_GET_SELECTABLE_FD(3PCAP)
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