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Top Forums Programming sockets - can you send data while waiting on select() Post 302526598 by Loic Domaigne on Wednesday 1st of June 2011 02:50:29 AM
Old 06-01-2011
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Originally Posted by expl
recv() is capable to timeout as it uses select syscall internally and timeout is configured with setsockopt(), putting one more select call in front just adds overhead.
Quoting yourself: I have a feeling that you have no idea what you are talking about Smilie Not all systems support SO_RCVTIMEO, so this last statement obviously doesn't make sense...

Your reasoning is excellent, but your basic assumptions are off. If you read carefully my posts, I just mentioned that it is possible to block on a socket, while sending data, since TCP is full-duplex. Nothing more, nothing less.

And even if people err (I personally do), I don't feel the need to treat them "maroons that have no idea about what they're talking about". We're all here to learn, and this can be achieved in a respectful way.

Just my 2c,
Loïc

Last edited by Loic Domaigne; 06-01-2011 at 06:47 AM.. Reason: reader friendly
 

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SEND(2) 						     Linux Programmer's Manual							   SEND(2)

NAME
send, sendto, sendmsg - send a message from a socket SYNOPSIS
#include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/socket.h> int send(int s, const void *msg, size_t len, int flags); int sendto(int s, const void *msg, size_t len, int flags, const struct sockaddr *to, socklen_t tolen); int sendmsg(int s, const struct msghdr *msg, int flags); DESCRIPTION
Send, sendto, and sendmsg are used to transmit a message to another socket. Send may be used only when the socket is in a connected state, while sendto and sendmsg may be used at any time. The address of the target is given by to with tolen specifying its size. The length of the message is given by len. If the message is too long to pass atomically through the underlying protocol, the error EMSGSIZE is returned, and the message is not transmitted. No indication of failure to deliver is implicit in a send. Locally detected errors are indicated by a return value of -1. When the message does not fit into the send buffer of the socket, send normally blocks, unless the socket has been placed in non-blocking I/O mode. In non-blocking mode it would return EAGAIN in this case. The select(2) call may be used to determine when it is possible to send more data. The flags parameter is a flagword and can contain the following flags: MSG_OOB Sends out-of-band data on sockets that support this notion (e.g. SOCK_STREAM); the underlying protocol must also support out-of- band data. MSG_DONTROUTE Dont't use a gateway to send out the packet, only send to hosts on directly connected networks. This is usually used only by diag- nostic or routing programs. This is only defined for protocol families that route; packet sockets don't. MSG_DONTWAIT Enables non-blocking operation; if the operation would block, EAGAIN is returned (this can also be enabled using the O_NONBLOCK with the F_SETFL fcntl(2)). MSG_NOSIGNAL Requests not to send SIGPIPE on errors on stream oriented sockets when the other end breaks the connection. The EPIPE error is still returned. MSG_CONFIRM (Linux 2.3+ only) Tell the link layer that forward process happened: you got a successful reply from the other side. If the link layer doesn't get this it'll regularly reprobe the neighbour (e.g. via a unicast ARP). Only valid on SOCK_DGRAM and SOCK_RAW sockets and currently only implemented for IPv4 and IPv6. See arp(7) for details. The definition of the msghdr structure follows. See recv(2) and below for an exact description of its fields. struct msghdr { void * msg_name; /* optional address */ socklen_t msg_namelen; /* size of address */ struct iovec * msg_iov; /* scatter/gather array */ size_t msg_iovlen; /* # elements in msg_iov */ void * msg_control; /* ancillary data, see below */ socklen_t msg_controllen; /* ancillary data buffer len */ int msg_flags; /* flags on received message */ }; You may send control information using the msg_control and msg_controllen members. The maximum control buffer length the kernel can process is limited per socket by the net.core.optmem_max sysctl; see socket(7). RETURN VALUE
The calls return the number of characters sent, or -1 if an error occurred. ERRORS
These are some standard errors generated by the socket layer. Additional errors may be generated and returned from the underlying protocol modules; see their respective manual pages. EBADF An invalid descriptor was specified. ENOTSOCK The argument s is not a socket. EFAULT An invalid user space address was specified for a parameter. EMSGSIZE The socket requires that message be sent atomically, and the size of the message to be sent made this impossible. EAGAIN or EWOULDBLOCK The socket is marked non-blocking and the requested operation would block. ENOBUFS The output queue for a network interface was full. This generally indicates that the interface has stopped sending, but may be caused by transient congestion. (This cannot occur in Linux, packets are just silently dropped when a device queue overflows.) EINTR A signal occurred. ENOMEM No memory available. EINVAL Invalid argument passed. EPIPE The local end has been shut down on a connection oriented socket. In this case the process will also receive a SIGPIPE unless MSG_NOSIGNAL is set. CONFORMING TO
4.4BSD, SVr4, POSIX 1003.1g draft (these function calls appeared in 4.2BSD). MSG_CONFIRM is a Linux extension. NOTE
The prototypes given above follow the Single Unix Specification, as glibc2 also does; the flags argument was `int' in BSD 4.*, but `unsigned int' in libc4 and libc5; the len argument was `int' in BSD 4.* and libc4, but `size_t' in libc5; the tolen argument was `int' in BSD 4.* and libc4 and libc5. See also accept(2). SEE ALSO
fcntl(2), recv(2), select(2), getsockopt(2), sendfile(2), socket(2), write(2), socket(7), ip(7), tcp(7), udp(7) Linux Man Page 1999-07 SEND(2)
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