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Special Forums Hardware Filesystems, Disks and Memory Help finding a Unix friendly RAID 1 backup Post 302509665 by c.wakeman on Thursday 31st of March 2011 12:57:55 PM
Old 03-31-2011
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No. Sorry I didn't realize this. You seemed confident the disk had USB connectivity and I didn't question it too deeply.
No worries. Well, I was confident the disk had USB connectivity; and it does, just not in the way I, or any normal person, need it. SmilieThat bit of info certainly could have been made clearer in the product specs; I read USB and saw a USB port and, incorrectly, assumed it would work.


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1) Return the Buffalo HD and purchase another HD that has proper USB connectivity.
That's what I'd do.
Thankfully, Amazon returns are easy enough.

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You'll never be able to do a bare-metal backup that way. It'll never recognize a network-only disk. Things on a network don't just appear because you plug them in (except for DHCP servers). It has to be used in other ways, and likely can't be done from a gentoo livecd since it's probably CIFS. Won't be trivial to do so on a full linux system, either. It won't be able to use it as a disk anyway, just as NAS.
And thus why I wasn't able to find any info online or in my book. Your answer provides the technical "why" and makes me feel a little better about the situation. Once again, your help has been invaluable.

It appears I may have a trip to best buy in my future if I want to get this done before the end of the week.

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I have another question, that's really more of an option, but I'm interested in your opinion.

One of the reasons I am doing (as you suggested) a bare-metal backup is that, in the event the server hard drive fails, I can crack the hard drive open and replace it. If that is the case and I need to purchase something different anyway, would it be a good option to get an appropriate internal hard drive, with an enclosure that supports USB? Since it will only be used as a bare-metal backup to do at most weekly updates, is this acceptable? From what I understand, the external hard drives provide portability and cooling fans to help with prolonged and constant use. However, if I don't really need either of those and full replacement functionality is desired, is that a better option or am I simply making things more difficult for myself?

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I realize that most of the larger external enclosures include fans anyway so that really isn't a differentiating factor. I understand buying a prepackaged external HD is easier; I just worry that, in the event of failure, it will be difficult to extract the HD and/or the HD won't be compatible with the system. (I've never cracked open a prepackaged external HD before.) Though, it occurs to me now that compatibility could be an issue regardless of whether the HD is external or internal without specifically knowing the hardware layout of the system.
 

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CFDISK(8)							 GNU fdisk Manual							 CFDISK(8)

NAME
GNU fdisk, lfdisk, gfdisk - manipulate partition tables on a hard drive SYNOPSIS
fdisk [options] [device] DESCRIPTION
fdisk is a disk partition manipulation program, which allows you to create, destroy, resize, move and copy partitions on a hard drive using a menu-driven interface. It is useful for organising the disk space on a new drive, reorganising an old drive, creating space for new oper- ating systems, and copying data to new hard disks. For a list of the supported partition types, see the --list-partition-types option below. It comes in two variants, gfdisk and lfdisk. Lfdisk aims to resemble Linux fdisk 2.12, while gfdisk supports more advanced disk operations, like resizing the filesystem, moving and copying partitions. When starting fdisk, the default is to run gfdisk. OPTIONS
-h, --help displays a help message. -v, --version displays the program's version. -L, --linux-fdisk turns on Linux fdisk compatibility mode. This is the same as running lfdisk. -G, --gnu-fdisk turns off Linux fdisk compatibility mode. -i, --interactive where necessary, prompts for user intervention. -p, --script never prompts for user intervention. -l, --list lists the partition table on the specified device and exits. If there is no device specified, lists the partition tables on all detected devices. -r, --raw-list displays a hex dump of the partition table of the disk, similar to the way Linux fdisk displays the raw data in the partition table. -u, --sector-units use sectors, instead of cylinders for a default unit. -s, --size=DEVICE prints the size of the partition on DEVICE is printed on the standard output. -t, --list-partition-types displays a list of supported partition types and features. The following options are available only to lfdisk. -b, --sector-size=SIZE Specify the sector size of the disk. Valid values are 512, 1024 and 2048. Should be used only on older kernels, which don't guess the correct sector size. -C, --cylinders=CYLINDERS Specify the number of cylinders of the disk. Currently does nothing, it is left for Linux fdisk compatibility. -H, --heads=HEADS Specify the number of heads of the disk. Reasonable values are 255 or 16. -S, --sectors=SECTORS Specify the number of sectors per track. A reasonable value is 63. BUGS
Before editing a BSD disklabel, the partition with the disklabel should already exist on the disk and be detected by the OS. If you have created a BSD-type partition, you need to write the changes to the disk. If fdisk fails to notify the OS about the changes in partition ta- ble, you need to restart your computer. As fdisk tries to guess the device holding the BSD disklabel, it might fail to edit it at all, even if the OS has detected it. In this case you are adviced to simply open the device with fdisk directly. It is possible that it doesn't work on some operating systems. Getting the size of a partition with -s might fail, if fdisk fails to guess the disk device, for the same reasons as with the previous bug. SEE ALSO
mkfs(8), cfdisk(8), parted(8) The fdisk program is fully documented in the info(1) format GNU fdisk User Manual manual. fdisk 18 August, 2006 CFDISK(8)
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