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Special Forums Hardware Filesystems, Disks and Memory Help finding a Unix friendly RAID 1 backup Post 302505189 by Corona688 on Wednesday 16th of March 2011 12:23:33 PM
Old 03-16-2011
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Originally Posted by c.wakeman
By “UNIX-friendly” I meant that I am ideally looking for something that is out of the box compatible with Unix in order to minimize additional coding and therefore potential problems and headaches.
Avoid software RAID then. We use that and it works decently well but took a lot of frustration to get going.

A hardware RAID on the other hand, can present multiple disks to the operating system like a single hard drive. Configuring which drives are part of an array often becomes an extended CMOS setting completely independent of the installed OS: you might get a 'press ESC to configure drives' message on boot before the OS actually loads. Assuming your server is a PC that is.
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From what I understand, in some cases, the internal cards that coordinate the RAID 1 aren’t necessarily designed to work with a Unix system. I would like to avoid those.
It's not so much that they're not designed to work with UNIX, as much as they may not have bothered writing UNIX device drivers. This may not be as important as it used to be (for PC hardware, anyway) since most disk controllers are AHCI-compliant these days and work fine with a generic driver.
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To be honest, I don’t know what type of Unix I am using, or what the architecture and system is, where would I find that information?
That's a pretty important question... "UNIX" is a completely generic term; Your wireless router might be running a kind of UNIX. So do most supercomputers. Obviously you can't run software from one on the other or fit hardware from one into the other. In a shell, try uname and uname -a to find out what your system is.

That alone won't tell you what kind of card slots this server has and which, if any, are free, so you might need to take a look at the hardware itself too.
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What do you mean types of disks? Speed, size, company?
Mostly, interface. SATA-II? SATA-III? SCSI? Probably you want SATA I think. SATA hotswap cages are cheap these days.
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I think I get your point about copying from Unix to Windows. I basically need to format the drive first, and send the data over as one large file that can be restored later if needed, which would ensure individual users permissions?
Exactly. The permissions, timestamps, users, and everything else all get bundled up along with the files when you make a tar with -p. Formatting it in NTFS is necessary for Windows if the drive came with FAT, because FAT can't hold files larger than 4 gigabytes.
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Reliability is key, I will look into 3ware.
Good deal. We tried to go cheap and tried a jmicron controller, which caused some (fortunately recoverable) data corruption. Never again.

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Also: A RAID isn't exactly a backup. It's tempting since it's automatic and improves your speed too. It somewhat protects you from a single-disk failure -- that's all. (And single-disk failiures will occur more often because you're running more disks.) Any other kind of problem -- an out-of-control program, dying disk controller, murderous power supply, fire, lightning strike, utility company, theft, volcano -- are still quite capable of swallowing your data entire. A trustworthy backup is when you make a copy and mail it somewhere else.

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