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Special Forums Hardware Filesystems, Disks and Memory Why we don't need to defrag UNIX FS? Post 302451143 by Corona688 on Sunday 5th of September 2010 11:21:32 PM
Old 09-06-2010
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Originally Posted by amro1
We DO need from time to time to defrag UNIX related filesystem. The problem is that unlike NTFS (which is VERY GOOD, well designed, originated in absolutely terrific OpenVMS, file system)
MS must have made an absolute hash of it, then because, as I've said, I've seen it fragment terribly on drives only 50% full. It certainly doesn't seem to make any effort to obey your ideal of squashing everything at the head of the drive, either.
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However, if you on single drive PC with Linux on it and do something that makes a lot of small files, then removes them and then do it over again, your system will be fragmented as a hell.
I use a distro that keeps 1.9 gigs of metadata in a tree of 100,000 tiny files with frequent replacement. I've seen ReiserFS fragment badly on that(the files didn't fragment, but the directories themselves did, leading to very slow ls), but not the more common Linux filesystems.
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By doing that, the restored files fill into the drive one by another, no gaps and no interleaving.
You've got an odd idea of fragmentation. It doesn't mean "all files in one giant clump at the start of the drive", which is a recipe for fragmentation -- growing files will have no room to expand, and get scattered in pieces when they do.

And there's certainly better alternatives to dumping the entire filesystem, like shake.
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SHELL-QUOTE(1p) 					User Contributed Perl Documentation					   SHELL-QUOTE(1p)

NAME
shell-quote - quote arguments for safe use, unmodified in a shell command SYNOPSIS
shell-quote [switch]... arg... DESCRIPTION
shell-quote lets you pass arbitrary strings through the shell so that they won't be changed by the shell. This lets you process commands or files with embedded white space or shell globbing characters safely. Here are a few examples. EXAMPLES
ssh preserving args When running a remote command with ssh, ssh doesn't preserve the separate arguments it receives. It just joins them with spaces and passes them to "$SHELL -c". This doesn't work as intended: ssh host touch 'hi there' # fails It creates 2 files, hi and there. Instead, do this: cmd=`shell-quote touch 'hi there'` ssh host "$cmd" This gives you just 1 file, hi there. process find output It's not ordinarily possible to process an arbitrary list of files output by find with a shell script. Anything you put in $IFS to split up the output could legitimately be in a file's name. Here's how you can do it using shell-quote: eval set -- `find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 shell-quote --` debug shell scripts shell-quote is better than echo for debugging shell scripts. debug() { [ -z "$debug" ] || shell-quote "debug:" "$@" } With echo you can't tell the difference between "debug 'foo bar'" and "debug foo bar", but with shell-quote you can. save a command for later shell-quote can be used to build up a shell command to run later. Say you want the user to be able to give you switches for a command you're going to run. If you don't want the switches to be re-evaluated by the shell (which is usually a good idea, else there are things the user can't pass through), you can do something like this: user_switches= while [ $# != 0 ] do case x$1 in x--pass-through) [ $# -gt 1 ] || die "need an argument for $1" user_switches="$user_switches "`shell-quote -- "$2"` shift;; # process other switches esac shift done # later eval "shell-quote some-command $user_switches my args" OPTIONS
--debug Turn debugging on. --help Show the usage message and die. --version Show the version number and exit. AVAILABILITY
The code is licensed under the GNU GPL. Check http://www.argon.org/~roderick/ or CPAN for updated versions. AUTHOR
Roderick Schertler <roderick@argon.org> perl v5.8.4 2005-05-03 SHELL-QUOTE(1p)
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