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Special Forums UNIX and Linux Applications High Performance Computing Memory Barriers for (Ubuntu) Linux (i686) Post 302431048 by Corona688 on Sunday 20th of June 2010 09:14:36 PM
Old 06-20-2010
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Originally Posted by gorga
Let me put it this way, I have a list of jobs to do, as I progress through the list I find some jobs aren't ready. I can either block/sleep etc and wait for the job to become ready, or I can move onto the next task and execute that one instead.
...and when you don't assume best-case, you could be going through the next few thousand not-ready tasks. Meanwhile every idle worker's doing the same thing. I begin to understand why you're concerned about contention for memory.
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If I build my system with locks, I'll adhere to the first approach, whereas what I'm trying to achieve (aided by atomic flags and memory barriers) is the second.
But because it doesn't block, you'll be wasting time scanning the list anyway, time that could have been spent doing actual work. And since your system's as busy idle as it is when actually busy you'll have a difficult time guessing how much. If I read you correctly, the jobs are all tiny. How tiny? How much more work is it to do a job than to scan the list? (And don't assume it could never, ever become mostly empty, that's the goal, not the proof.) If they're even in the same ballpark, you're going to be wasting a worrying proportion of CPU time scanning your list.

Anyway, the queue needn't block like you're describing. Put jobs in the queue when they become ready, don't just stick them there in advance, that way threads won't block when picking up jobs unless you're actually out of jobs -- in which case you want them to block. If the queue's big enough and jobs can be added fast enough, things can run smoothly. You can also do other things to streamline the queue -- hand out jobs 16 at a time instead of one at a time, switch between multiple queues, etc.

Last edited by Corona688; 06-20-2010 at 10:33 PM..
 

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atq(1)							      General Commands Manual							    atq(1)

NAME
atq - Prints the queue of jobs waiting to be run SYNOPSIS
atq [-c | -n] [-q queuename] [user...] The atq command prints the queue of jobs waiting to be run at a later date. These jobs were created with the at command. OPTIONS
Sorts the queue by the time that the at command was issued. Prints only the number of files currently in the queue. Specifies the queue you want to use. DESCRIPTION
With no options, the queue is sorted in the order that the jobs are to be executed. When a privileged user invokes the atq command without specifying a username, the entire queue is displayed; if a username is specified, only those jobs belonging to the specified user are displayed. EXAMPLES
In order to look at the queue created by the at command, enter: atq If there are jobs in the queue, a message similar to the following is displayed: root.62169200.a Tue Sep 12 11:00:00 1990 The extension specifies an at job. FILES
Main cron directory. List of allowed users. List of denied users. Spool area. Queue description file for at, batch, and cron. SEE ALSO
Commands: at(1), atrm(1), cron(8) Files: queuedefs(4) atq(1)
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