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Special Forums UNIX and Linux Applications High Performance Computing Massively parallel on single core? Post 302395115 by Andre_Merzky on Monday 15th of February 2010 04:23:34 AM
Old 02-15-2010
Hi Neo,

thanks for your reply!

I agree abut your remark as distributed architectures. This is my day-job, and I like it a lot :-)

I did not make the problem clear enough I think: the workload I am talking about are mostly idle jobs, so the CPU and memory load for each job is *very* low. Yes, I can beat the problem with more cores or nodes, but that seems very much like a waste, as those would be all idling most of the time.

Assume you plan for 1000 threads per core, and use quad code nodes - that would require 25 nodes which all idle all day long :-(

Some more detail, if that helps: the idle processes/threads are basically watchers, which represent a CPU/Memory heavy remote job they spawned, and whose state they are watching. Only when that state changes they become active, and kick of data movements or spawn new jobs.

We can't control the design of the remote job startup API very well (third party, synchronous API only), thus our technical options for obtaining state information about those jobs are limited, and boil down to
Code:
void * run_job (void * data)
{
   // this call runs a remote job, and blocks for hours
   remote_api_call (data);
   store_output_data (data);
}

#define NJOBS 100000

int main ()
{
  pthread_t threads[NJOBS]
  for ( int i = 0; i < NJOBS; i++ )
  {
     pthread_create (threads[i],  run_job, ...)
  }

  for ( int i = 0; i < NJOBS; i++ )
  {
     pthread_join (threads[i]);
  }
}

So, I can throw 25 nodes on that large for loop, and that is what we do basically - but what a waste...

The *real* workload are 100.000 CPU/Memory heavy remote jobs, which have sufficient resources to run concurrently. I am talking about the management side (our workflow engine).

Thanks, Andre.
 

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MDM-RUN(1)							   User Commands							MDM-RUN(1)

NAME
mdm-run - run a command in parallel with mdm-master SYNOPSIS
mdm-run command mdm-sync command DESCRIPTION
mdm-run annotates command as a candidate for parallel execution. If an mdm-master process is present (i.e., the environment variable MDM_CMD_SOCK is defined), mdm-run submits command to the mdm-master, and it exits when the master issues the command to an mdm-slave process (which may be connected to another terminal) for execution. mdm-sync runs command in place, but it coordinates with mdm-master to ensure that executing command does not interfere with commands that are currently executing in parallel. If there is no mdm-master process present (i.e., the environment variable MDM_CMD_SOCK is not defined), both mdm-run and mdm-sync simply run command as if you entered command all by itself. These programs are a part of the Middleman System (mdm). OPTIONS
Neither mdm-run nor mdm-sync accepts any options. EXIT STATUS
If there is no mdm-master process present, the exit status of mdm-run is the exit status of command. If an mdm-master process is present, the exit status is 0 if and only if command is successfully issued to an mdm-slave process for execution. The exit status of mdm-sync is always the exit status of command. ENVIRONMENT
The mdm system uses the following environment variable for internal communication, and thus you should not try to set them yourself. MDM_CMD_SOCK mdm-run uses this environment variable to decide whether a mdm-master process is present. EXAMPLE
See mdm.screen(1) for an example use of mdm-run. SEE ALSO
mdm.screen(1) Linux 2009-03-06 MDM-RUN(1)
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