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Top Forums UNIX for Advanced & Expert Users Finding process id of subsequent process Post 302368840 by thmnetwork on Thursday 5th of November 2009 07:16:48 PM
Old 11-05-2009
Wrench

Quote:
Originally Posted by matrixmadhan

A lock file with pid in it isn't really making any difference here, just a running number to keep track of the active child count should do and that is what i had done for now
Maybe I was too vague in my initial posting. Let's say you create the file: /tmp/dataCruncher.exe.lock.1928 in the script that creates the lock file. You "parent" script can then look into /tmp for files matching the pattern "dataCruncher\.exe\.lock.([0-9]+)" (or ""dataCruncher.exe.lock followed by a period and one or more numbers.")(or whatever type of regex you plan on using)

in the above PCRE regex, the language/utility/whatever will create a backreference for the number portion of the pattern under "1."

proof of concept in Perl:

Code:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w

our @files = </tmp/dataCruncher.exe.lock*>;
our @pids = ();

foreach $file (@files) {
           $file =~ /dataCruncher\.exe\.lock\.([0-9]+)/;
           push ( @pids, $1 );
}

@pids ends up being an array of PIDs retrieved out of lockfile filenames in such a way.

Hope that makes what I'm saying seem a little clearer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by matrixmadhan

Again an important point is being missed out here,
say at t1 the main script spawns a process p1 and is adopted by init at the same time t1, another script with the same name can be spawned and become the child of the init

In a busy node, all these considerations should be dealt well, else there would be confusion as to who is the parent of whom
Random numbers aren't random. Port numbers aren't guarantees. There is ambiguity in real world applications. Since, as you admit, identifying information is destroyed before you have the chance to save it, you're forced to depend on heuristics, which are fuzzy by their nature, but a best-guess that's known as being a best-guess is better than no idea at all.

Criteria you can examine the process tree for: username, time, command, parent(1), etc. All of which make it less likely that you've caught more than one process in the fray. You also haven't mentioned how you're creating the lockfile. It would seem a process that can know when the children die off can also do the above file naming.

Quote:
Originally Posted by matrixmadhan
I don't want to write the pid because effectively we are writing the PPID and not PID which should be avoided.
Well, I think I can maybe help a little more if I understand more about how you're creating the lockfile.

Last edited by thmnetwork; 11-05-2009 at 08:22 PM.. Reason: fixing syntax error
 

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